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  • kielbasavw
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 1611

    die questions

    i am just getting into reloading, and have done some research on a little bit of everything. i recently bought an old reloading set from the late 70's early 80's (everything is dated) for $350. it came with quite a bit of stuff, an older RCBS Reloader Special (RS) press, bunch of books, some powder, primers, brass, ect blah blah blah.

    here are the dies it came with, and then my question:
    rcbs 38spc 3 piece die set
    rcbs 357 seater die
    rcbs 38 acp/super 3 piece set
    rcbs 30/30 fl 2 piece set
    rcbs 30/30 trim die set

    a friend has been telling me that 38/357 are and use the same dies, my question is why would i have a seperate "357 seater die" and also, i dont see any "carbide" stamping on my dies, and i would really prefer not to lube ever single case if i have to. what do you guys suggest to do about finding carbide dies to switch over. and i do not need 38super dies.. what could i get for that?
  • #2
    Cheep
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2009
    • 1323

    The 357 seater die is probably too deep to seat 38spl and you may be able to trade the 38super for dies you want.
    Originally posted by NOMADCHRIS
    your asking a question about asking a question ??? just ask the damn question!!!

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    • #3
      scotty99
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2009
      • 1184

      The guy you bought this from likely had separate .38 and .357 seater dies so he would not have to readjust when switching between calibers. Adjusting the resize and expander dies is pretty quick, but the seater die takes more trial and error.

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      • #4
        koehn,jim
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 643

        Check with Lee for carbide dies or Dillon.

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        • #5
          XDRoX
          Veteran Member
          • Mar 2009
          • 4420

          While back some companies did make 38spl only dies and 357 only dies. The guy you brought them from added the 357 seat/crimp die to load 357. The 38spl sizer and expander will load 357, just not the seat/crimp.

          Personally I'd sell all of it and buy a brand new Lee carbide set for like $25 or whatever they cost nowadays. Last time I bought one it was under $25. It will load both 38spl and 357mag and they will be carbide so no lube required.
          Last edited by XDRoX; 04-16-2013, 7:18 AM.
          Chris
          <----Rimfire Addict


          Originally posted by Oceanbob
          Get a DILLON...

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          • #6
            XDRoX
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 4420

            Originally posted by koehn,jim
            Check with Lee for carbide dies or Dillon.
            He's using a single stage press. Dillon dies don't come with an expanding die.
            Chris
            <----Rimfire Addict


            Originally posted by Oceanbob
            Get a DILLON...

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            • #7
              kielbasavw
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2011
              • 1611

              I would love to find out where yourgetting your 25 $ ccarbide sets

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              • #8
                kielbasavw
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2011
                • 1611

                Would I want to get rid 38spc dies,and ppick up a csrbide set, but keep the 357 since seating doesn't require lube, and two dies would be more convenient?

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                • #9
                  Bill Steele
                  Calguns Addict
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 5028

                  Personally, I would just keep what you have and use a little lube. But then, I use Hornaday One Shot on my all pistol cases, even with my Dillon carbide dies. Makes sizing easier, easier on the brass, better all the way around. The Hornaday One Shot doesn't need to be removed before you shoot, although I do tumble my finished handgun rounds for a short time to clean them up.
                  When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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                  • #10
                    kielbasavw
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 1611

                    My friend told me to use one shot, I suppose I could go that way but, if I have the choice to g carbide. I'd really prefef it

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                    • #11
                      XDRoX
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 4420

                      Originally posted by kielbasavw
                      I would love to find out where yourgetting your 25 $ ccarbide sets
                      I haven't bought Lee dies in years. Looks like midway and grafs has them for $31.

                      And yes, keep the 357 seat/crimp if you don't want to re-adjust the 38spl die.
                      Chris
                      <----Rimfire Addict


                      Originally posted by Oceanbob
                      Get a DILLON...

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                      • #12
                        XDRoX
                        Veteran Member
                        • Mar 2009
                        • 4420

                        Originally posted by kielbasavw
                        My friend told me to use one shot, I suppose I could go that way but, if I have the choice to g carbide. I'd really prefef it
                        Some guys like Bill use lube anyways so not having carbide dies isn't a big deal. I never use lube for pistol loading, so I also prefer carbide. I gave away all my old non-carbide dies and replaced them with carbide.
                        Chris
                        <----Rimfire Addict


                        Originally posted by Oceanbob
                        Get a DILLON...

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                        • #13
                          kielbasavw
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2011
                          • 1611

                          I was told it's good to lube every few rounds or so on carbide. What could I get for a set of used rcbs non carbide dies, is it eve worth the effort of selling

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                          • #14
                            mark501w
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2011
                            • 1699

                            I often times will add a lee carbide sizer to old die set .Natcherz has them for less than 20.00.

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                            • #15
                              Bill Steele
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Sep 2010
                              • 5028

                              Originally posted by kielbasavw
                              My friend told me to use one shot, I suppose I could go that way but, if I have the choice to g carbide. I'd really prefef it
                              Well, you do have a choice. You can go a lot more wrong than just to follow Chris' (XDRoX) advice and get a set of Lee carbide dies.

                              If you plan to sell those RCBS dies, now would be the time. The marketplace forums here on Calguns have a reloading "for sale" section.
                              When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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