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  • DrewtheDon707
    Junior Member
    • Feb 2012
    • 8

    Too Hot Of A Load?

    First off, I've been a lurker on this forum for a while and I want to thank all of those that contribute your info and knowledge it is truly invaluable.

    So anyways I was loading up a batch of .223 with 55 grain fmjbt with 25 grains of IMR 8208 xbr and when I got done with my hundred rack I had enough powder left in the dropper for about 40 more rounds so i decided to load a handful of 62 grain a buddy had given me. So without changing my powder dropper I did so without thinking. Reason being I'm used to loading with IMR 4895 at 23.7 grains for 55gr fmjbt's and when my buddy has given me some 62's here and there in the past, I've just used the same load cause it crossed over well. (Had to make a momentary change recently as I ran out of 4895 and all I could find was two lbs of 8208 locally)But when all of this dawned on me after the fact I looked up max loads for 62grain bullets on imr's website for the 8208xbr powder its only 23.2 gr's at 53,000 psi. So at roughly 8% over the max recommended should I worry about pulling them or just say the hell with it and pull the trigger?
    Last edited by DrewtheDon707; 03-14-2013, 4:32 AM.
  • #2
    TKM
    Onward through the fog!
    CGN Contributor
    • Jul 2002
    • 10657

    I wouldn't risk it.
    Last edited by TKM; 03-14-2013, 5:06 AM.
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    • #3
      kmolles
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Mar 2012
      • 120

      Personally, I'm a by the book kind of guy, so I would pull them, but if you have a firearm also chambered for 5.56, you MAY be ok...

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      • #4
        koehn,jim
        Senior Member
        • Feb 2013
        • 643

        Dont risk it. You said it yourself you are over max by 8 percent. The problem is the pressure curve spikes up rapidly. The amount of damage could be signicant. Most of the maximum loaddss are called that for a reason.

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        • #5
          stphnman20
          Calguns Addict
          • Feb 2005
          • 6583

          I wouldn't do it. There's a reason why us reloaders work up a load.

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          • #6
            bruceflinch
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Jan 2006
            • 40120

            In an AR, I wouldn't shoot them.
            In a bolt gun. I would.
            Got a bullet puller? The collet type would let you pull 40 rounds in less than 10 minutes.
            Actually I only started collecting Milsurps 3 years ago. I think I might own about 24...They're cheaper than guns that will most likely never get the opportunity to kill somebody...

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            • #7
              csburtch
              Member
              • Jan 2011
              • 366

              There is a reason they publish the "Max loads" safety. Look at YouTube, there are a couple of videos of people's AR's blowing up. Not pretty. Just takem apart and adjust your powder. Easier than finding a new lower... Or nose...

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              • #8
                the86d
                Calguns Addict
                • Jul 2011
                • 9587

                Originally posted by csburtch
                There is a reason they publish the "Max loads" safety. Look at YouTube, there are a couple of videos of people's AR's blowing up. Not pretty. Just takem apart and adjust your powder. Easier than finding a new lower... Or nose...
                This is from a squib just prior to the blow, right (no powder/low powder)? Or loaded with pistol/shotshell powder...

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                62 grainers (SS109) with 24.1 of Varget is max per the liers/lawers for Varget on http://data.hodgdon.com, and I went up to about 27.1 compressed with no overpressure signs (CCI #41's though). I did work up, but remember everything is on the conservative side due to liers/lawers.

                I went 12% over, but I have a NATO chamber/barrel. If this is for an AR with a NATO chamber, then I would shoot them, but that is me. I have seen factory 5.56 NATO ammo with flattened primers from some range pickups I have scrounged, still crimped.

                NATO: 430.00 MPa (62,366 psi)


                However, I wouldn't do it in a bolt action rifle.
                Last edited by the86d; 03-14-2013, 7:55 AM.

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                • #9
                  stilly
                  I need a LIFE!!
                  • Jul 2009
                  • 10677

                  By the book and for YOUR safety, "dissassemble Stephanie!"

                  BUT...

                  If you want to be a small pioneer and have the money to replace your firearm, load a round in and set it somewhere behind something with a string on the trigger and see what happens from a safe distance.
                  7 Billion people on the planet. They aint ALL gonna astronauts. Some will get hit by trains...

                  Need GOOD SS pins to clean your brass? Try the new and improved model...



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                  • #10
                    Divernhunter
                    Calguns Addict
                    • May 2010
                    • 8753

                    Pull them and start over. Consider it a learning expierence
                    A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt.
                    NRA Life Member, NRA certified RSO & Basic Pistol Instructor, Hunter, shooter, reloader
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                    • #11
                      DrewtheDon707
                      Junior Member
                      • Feb 2012
                      • 8

                      It is a NATO chambered 556 rifle they'd be shot out of but...
                      better safe than sorry gonna pull em here in a few thanks guys

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                      • #12
                        russt
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2012
                        • 1039

                        Shooting a load that's over max isn't a great idea in my opinion, but it can definitely be done safely with now issues if you properly work up the load. To go over max with not proper work up is a horrible idea that is definitely not worth the risk!

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