Reloading service in Los Angeles

[ar15barrels]

I have an idea and wanted to see if there would be interest enough for me to continue with the idea...

How many would be interested in renting reloading press time in my shop?
Say it was $20 per half hour with my assistance and then $10 per half hour unassisted after that.
I help teach you what you need to do and then set you loose on your own.
This would be a fully equipped single stage reloading setup including all necessary tools to process brass and load ammo.
It would generally take a couple visits as you would need to tumble brass before you start loading it.
Let's say it is $5 per tumbler load for brass tumbling and you can just drop that off anytime at least a day prior to when you want to make an appointment to use the reloading room.
I'll have the brass tumbled when your are ready to load.
I have dies for most common calibers and would be willing to buy dies and tooling as needed if there were enough requests.

My idea of this is to help out the guys that just need 20-40 rounds of lead free hunting ammo or want to load their own match ammo.
It would obviously be a really cheap way to see if reloading is something you want to get into, sorta a try-before-you-buy option.
You would need to have your own cases obviously and I recommend bringing the rifle along on your loading day so we can check that the ammo fits the chamber properly.
I can supply powder and primers as needed to people that are loading ammo in my shop or you can bring your own.
You would be responsible for replacing any tooling that you damage, but that is really rare with proper instruction on how it all works.

What say ye?

[paul0660]

with my assistance

I think you need advice on liability insurance.

[Bainter1212]

Yeah big red flags. You are dealing with explosives here......call your homeowners insurance first.

[Capybara]

Good idea but not workable in the real world, the lawyers screwed up doing something like this decades ago.

[Speedpower]

Great Idea! just have a waiver signed, people that doesn't agree with you are just plain foolish!

[bryant]

man that's a bad idea, you talking about somebody will reload some ammo on your facilities lawsuit waiting to happen, you don't know the person and equipment (firearm) they using and if something happen they always asking if ammo are reload.

[gau17]

I have a better idea. I'll talk to you on Sunday.

[gemoose23]

I think the idea is in the middle of the road of being philanthropic or making $$. I would go to the extreme either way.

• Philanthropic- Rent out single stage, tumbler with media, powder drop, dies, etc. All the bits and pieces from beginning to end.
• Straight making $$$ - Get Ammo FFL make "custom" ammo. Their Powder, primers, and recipes (OF course you have some on stock that you sell for profit as well). Hire a monkey to run a 1050...profit.

I am under the assumption that those wanting to rent out gear would want to see if reloading is for them. The money $$ adventure would just be for range blasters, I just assume all "match" shooters reload or shoot a caliber that has match ammo that they already like.

[aleng888]

why not just rent the equipment out like car. i would not mind rent a dillon 650 for a weekend.

[waxer]

The problem with this as I see it, is that people are idiots. Somehow, somewhere along the lines of this idea, somebody will make a mistake possibly double loading a round. They go to the range and get hurt... You receive a nice lawsuit shortly after and come back here asking for help from the CGF.

I think you might have good intentions on making some money, but the liability with this is too great.

[ocabj]

What you can do is provide reloading assistance as a course on reloading with NRA Certified Reloading Instructor credentials and using NRA Endorsed Instructor Insurance.

http://www.locktonrisk.com/nrains/instructors.htm

[ar15barrels]

I think you need advice on liability insurance.

This is why we start threads and ask opinions.

What you can do is provide reloading assistance as a course on reloading with NRA Certified Reloading Instructor credentials and using NRA Endorsed Instructor Insurance.

http://www.locktonrisk.com/nrains/instructors.htm

This is very workable solution.
Perhaps I would only offer lessons and not let people work unattended.

Im not really thinking about this being a way to really make money.
Im more interested in helping out the guy that really only needs a few rounds and getting peoples feet wet so they get their own reloading gear.

[Warrior King]

Great way to help people in the gun and hunting community. With the lead restrictions (More on the way) and price of ammo I can see more of this type of sharing on the horizon if shooting is going to stay viable in California.

Reloading takes some investment and there are people who for what ever reason do not have the space, time, ability, circumstance to reload.

I suggest if you own property that you put it all into a living trust, including cars so you are as bullet proof as possible against any type of litigation and judgement (good idea even if you do not pursue this).

Set it up so you comply with the law and its either rental or tutorial or the like. Have a rock solid liability waver drafted by an attorney....perhaps you could get one pro bono from some of the lawyers that advise Calguns, and this is not for profit.

Try to keep a wall between those things that would make you seem to be selling ammo.

Maybe make the user supplies all components and powder so you are only supplying use of hardware and instruction.

Have you scales calibrated and certified by a third party on a reg basis? Perhaps before rental demonstrate scales are accurate, or that powder measures are functioning correctly and have initial for that in liability waver.

[Scout2Diesel]

If your students/equipment renters have their own insurance that would sure be a nice layer of protection. (This is not too expensive for personal coverage... everyone should have this before things change)

Your liabitily carrier may not include the activity as its most likely not listed on your operations description?

Nice idea hope it grows into something.

[damndave]

I believe you would need a Type 06 FFL? Not quite sure, but I assume so.