Commercial Reloading Startup.

[freonr22]

You need to add a zero at the end of you venture capital amount.
15 employees at an end cost of at minimum $30-$40/hr after .gov stuff is $600/hr x 8 hrs only is $400/day.... As a small example of the big picture.

[freonr22]

You need to add a zero at the end of you venture capital amount.
15 employees at an end cost of at minimum $30-$40/hr after .gov stuff is $600/hr x 8 hrs only is $4800/day.... As a small example of the big picture.

[M27]

assuming you go through and open up a reloading business I think you have the right idea with the 1050's

I think with these you could get 1 person to run 3 or more of them of them at a time

http://czcustom.com/ponsness-warren-auto-drive.aspx

I also don't know if I would go with only 223, while it is a very common caliber so almost everyone shoots it, everyone ammo maker also makes it.

I feel it would be necessary to load some "non walmart" calibers that you can get a higher profit margin for, something like 10mm has a growing crowd.

Next what is your niche, Do you make maximum velocity defense loads. Do you make low cost plinking loads. Do you make heavy for caliber loads?

[anon-e-mouse]

You need to add a zero at the end of you venture capital amount.
15 employees at an end cost of at minimum $30-$40/hr after .gov stuff is $600/hr x 8 hrs only is $4800/day.... As a small example of the big picture.

U wouldn't pay someone $30-$40/hr to work the press, maybe $10/hr and thus $1200/day employee overhead. But I'm gonna wait until tomorrow to hear just how much of what I can get each month. If were talking about maybe making 100k rounds per month then obviously the commercial idea is a no go then I'd just stick to those 100k in the garage and make some for myself and sell off the supplies to someone else.

[anon-e-mouse]

assuming you go through and open up a reloading business I think you have the right idea with the 1050's

I think with these you could get 1 person to run 3 or more of them of them at a time

http://czcustom.com/ponsness-warren-auto-drive.aspx

I also don't know if I would go with only 223, while it is a very common caliber so almost everyone shoots it, everyone ammo maker also makes it.

I feel it would be necessary to load some "non walmart" calibers that you can get a higher profit margin for, something like 10mm has a growing crowd.

Next what is your niche, Do you make maximum velocity defense loads. Do you make low cost plinking loads. Do you make heavy for caliber loads?

You sir brought up some VERY valid questions I will have to answer before investing a penny.

Tomorrow I get to talk to the vendor to see how big of an order I can place, how often I can get it and for how much so that should give me a really solid starting point. Again if it turns out I can only get low quantities with long lead times then I know anything commercial is out of the question.

[DarkSoul]

You sir brought up some VERY valid questions I will have to answer before investing a penny.

Tomorrow I get to talk to the vendor to see how big of an order I can place, how often I can get it and for how much so that should give me a really solid starting point. Again if it turns out I can only get low quantities with long lead times then I know anything commercial is out of the question.

In these panicky times, If this vendor says he can keep up with your component demands, get it in writing. Any a-hole can say, oh yea, no problem, and make your first big order happen, and then drop the ball, now you are screwed, and the vendor, well, what does he care, he made his nut on that one sale, off to the next sucker. Meanwhile, you are screwed on all the time and money for the start up.

Admittedly, as was mentioned before, all the quality reloading stuff, components and reloading machines hold their value very well, so you would in the end be able to get probably most money back.

I would also factor in being essentially non-productive for the first month. I have a pretty impressive reloading setup if I do say so myself :P , and 1050's, although amazing machines, can be finicky. If you set up 3 with the Ponsness systems, and have only one guy watching, they better be dialed in perfect, and you better do a damn good job of brass prep and sorting. The machine doesnt care if a screwed up piece of brass, or whatever gets in the way, its going to try and load it. A single operator needs to be watching that press 100% of the time IMO, lest you have a $3000+ paperweight.

[freonr22]

U wouldn't pay someone $30-$40/hr to work the press, maybe $10/hr and thus $1200/day employee overhead. But I'm gonna wait until tomorrow to hear just how much of what I can get each month. If were talking about maybe making 100k rounds per month then obviously the commercial idea is a no go then I'd just stick to those 100k in the garage and make some for myself and sell off the supplies to someone else.

1.A $10 /hr person is not going to ensure quality
2. An hourly wage is not the only cost of an employee, how much is workmanship comp? How much are payroll taxes? How about benefits? Op, what do those costs look like to you?

[uhlan1]

Seems to me you'll be starting a business when the price of components is high. You will have to make a considerable inventory investment in these inflated components. price drops and you'll have to sell at a loss.
I wouldn't do it.

[Moto4Fun]

I say go for it. Don't gouge us!

[Diabolus]

With so much regulatory risk right now, it would be best to avoid any venture into the firearms business.

[JNunez23]

I wouldn't do it, and I really wanted to try that business out. Not worth it, especially now.

[Spaceghost]

The Itar taxes alone destroy most profits...

[Diabolus]

The Itar taxes alone destroy most profits...

ITAR is heavily abused... ridiculous tax that should be revised, or clarified.

[DavidR310]

Wheres that awesome thread, where that one guy no one likes outlined how to start a reloading business and where he went wrong?

Then all the comments where like go screw yourself.

lol.

[Spaceghost]

Freakshow10mm was the guy's user name, I believe.