Dillon Order Wait Support Group Thread

[Zamble]

I got my dies in 6 days, .223.

[BigNick]

I just picked up a dillon 650 this weekend in Reno with all the bells and whistles. I guess I got lucky to find one in a gun shop. Only problem is they didn't have all the conversions i needed so now I am also one of the guys waiting for some blue packages in the mail.

[randomBytes]

I ordered 2/8 (I think) 550 "as it should be" from BE.

Have received everything except the press and extra pickup tubes.

I still have time to clean the garage....

[Luv1911's]

I ordered my XL650 on 2/8 along with everything else needed to reload for handguns. Everything has trickled in the past few weeks and the press itself will be here today. It's going to be like Christmas all over again. Knowing several months ago that I had plans to reload, I started buying components before all the craziness started and so now that my press will be here I am ready to get started.

[MIAMIbaseballer]

And yeah ive been reloading 40 s&w and want to get 223 dies but I was debating on getting the quick change. I think you just helped me make up my mind.

Haven't changed out the system for another caliber yet either. Seems like its not a very fun process. How long did it take you to change out the whole system from small primers to large?

It'll probably take you a while your first few times, but it's less then 10 once you get it down...

[goodlookin1]

And yeah ive been reloading 40 s&w and want to get 223 dies but I was debating on getting the quick change. I think you just helped me make up my mind.

Haven't changed out the system for another caliber yet either. Seems like its not a very fun process. How long did it take you to change out the whole system from small primers to large?

I will tell you this with certainty: (1 > 2 > 3)

1) Get two presses: One for large primer, one for small primer. At a minimum. Obviously it would not be cost effective if you reload for a ton of different calibers, like me, to get a press for each caliber.....although that would be flipping awesome . For most people, this just isnt feasible. With the amount that I reload, I'd rather spend more time changing stuff out than spend another $1200.....unless of course I was selling my ammo, but I dont have an FFL license. I just dont need to reload that much and in my case, time is NOT money on the weekends.

2) Get the DELUXE quick change kits from Brian Enos: (powder die, toolhead, powder measure, toolhead stand, etc). This makes MUCH shorter work of any necessary caliber/primer system change out. Also get a quick change priming system.....this negates having to take the priming system apart and changing out the wheel from small to large primers....just bolt the entire new sized priming system down. There's only two different sizes (small, large), so it wont cost you that much more (I think like $81 or something?)

3) This is a FAR DOWN, last resort option. Buy standard caliber conversion kits (toolhead and powder die) and face the pain. You will be required to re-set up your powder measure to dispense the proper amount every single time you change calibers. You will be required to take apart the priming system to change the wheel out if going to a different sized primer. You will hand-feed cases one my one without the casefeeder. It would take so long to do all this that, in fact, I would never change calibers. I would only do this if you reload for one caliber as it will literally take you an hour to two hours to get it all figured out and set up properly every single time you change calibers....and I would still DEFINITELY get the casefeeder.

I will include one option outside of caliber changes, because I think with the 650, it is absolutely essential: Casefeeder. If you dont have one, you will likely only be able to load 25% of what you could WITH a casefeeder. The 650 is just made to use one.....really awkward sticking a case in with your hand instead of using the casefeeding system.

Other things you will need for a caliber change: Likely both sizes of priming system (small, large), small and large primer pickup tubes, proper sized shell plates for different sized cases, casefeeder plates for different shell sizes (small rifle, large rifle, magnum rifle, small pistol, large pistol).


I'm sure there's something I am forgetting, but generally, these are the main components that will enable you to change out calibers the fastest and reload the fastest. To sum up:

1) Casefeeder for speed and ease of reloading
2) Both Quick change priming systems
3) Deluxe quick change caliber conversion kits
4) Get a shop vac with a small, tight nozzle for all the powder you will be spilling when getting used to the new press

To change calibers and if you have all bells and whistles, going from small pistol to large rifle, you must:

1) remove toolhead
2) unscrew and remove shell plate
3) unscrew and remove small primer feeding system
4) go underneath and remove primer exit tray
5) stay underneath and remove small primer seating system
6) replace small with large priming seating system
7) replace primer exit tray
8) get up and bolt down large rifle priming feeding system
9) bolt down appropriate shell plate
10) remove and replace casefeeder shell adapter
11) remove and replace casefeeder shell plate for large rifle plate

Your 650 should now be completely changed over to a new caliber and with large priming in place. Without all the bells and whistles, there's probably an additional 10-15 steps that take a loooong time.

[MrElectric03]

Sign me up on the wait list. Just placed the order for my XL650 setup for .40 s&w, case feeder, lots of primer tubes, cover, dies, case gauge, as it should be kit with strong mount, aluminum roller handle,and bullet tray, powder check system, primer flip tray, tool holder and bench wrench, bullet puller and spare parts kit. Can't wait to start loading!

[CalTeacher]

In case anyone is interested, Grafs has RL 550b's in stock w/o caliber conversion kits. They still have 40/10mm conversion kits in stock as well as other necessary parts. I just ordered a complete 550 setup for .40. Delivery is estimated at 3-4 weeks rather than the 6-8 from benos.

Just a heads up.

[ricemanff]

We have a 1050 in stock at Barnwood Ripon. We also have some conversion kits and a few die sets.

[boomer135]

the low powder alarm is a waste of $ in my opinion. you can visually see how much powder is left, now if you got the powder check system that is a good call...

I also ordered the 650, im going without the casefeed and powder alarm.. Havent heard a time frame yet.. Ordered it about two weeks ago though... :/

[Gryff]

Ordered a .45acp caliber conversion kit and die set for my 650 on 2/15. Received the conversion kit three days ago. Dies are still pending.

the low powder alarm is a waste of $ in my opinion. you can visually see how much powder is left, now if you got the powder check system that is a good call...

I rigged a dental-type mirror and LED light to shine into the case at the bullet seating station so that I can do a visual inspection without shifting position (which I had to do previously since I'm only using 3.0gr of Titegroup...ain't a lot of it in the case to see).

[iroquois]

I'm almost ready to purchase the S 1050 with the carbide option.. I noticed the Dillon Super 1050 purchase page doesn't provide an interactive purchase guide like the 650.
Does anyone know if it's possible to swap the Dillon .223 Rem/Carbide seating die for the Redding competition bullet seating die?



iroquois

[goodlookin1]

I'm almost ready to purchase the S 1050 with the carbide option.. I noticed the Dillon Super 1050 purchase page doesn't provide an interactive purchase guide like the 650.
Does anyone know if it's possible to swap the Dillon .223 Rem/Carbide seating die for the Redding competition bullet seating die?



iroquois

Dont see why you couldnt do that.....I thought all Dillons can use different brand dies as long as the threads conform to the standard die threading?

Admittedly, I dont know much about 1050's

[tiller]

The 1050's take standard dies soo yes you could use the redding die

[prc77]

Got my 650 yesterday,, nearly 8 weeks, so I have everything but the 223 dies.