What do I do now?

[gemini1]

In my eagerness to start reloading, I bought some 62 grain projectiles at http://www.evergladesammo.com/bullet...j-bullets.html
These are solid lead core non magnetic bullets. When I emailed them to inquire about the brand, they responded that it was exclusively made for Everglades.

Now I have a couple of # of H335, but their loading data website does not have any info for 62 grains. They only show 60 grs HDY V-Max min of 22.5 and 63 grs SIE SP with the same min load of 22.5

The load data that came with my Lee dies, also does not have the H335 in the list.
I just got a Lyman 49th ed, and unfortunately for me, this book also do not have 62 grain projectile on its list.

Last night, I did load a batch of 10 rounds (hoping the Lyman would have the info). Started at 22 (which is .5 below the recommended min) and went to 22.5, 23. and 23.5 grains.

So what do you guys think? should I shoot these test rounds? I just read that going below minimum is just as bad as going over the max, but would .5 below really be that risky?

I'm using LC brass, length between 1754 - 1756 and Tula primers (KVB223M).

Can any of the more experienced reloader please let me know I can use these generic bullets?

[BACKTOSHOOTING]

Winchester load data

try this http://www.wwpowder.com/#

[gemini1]

^ Thanks, I already have that online site on my fave list but it does not mention anything about the projectiles I have.

[Quinc]

23.5gr of H335 with cci 400 primer gave me 2900fps out of my 26" AR upper.

[Munny$hot]

I'd go with he next heaviest bullet weight using the manufactures load data since they usually are conservative with their minimum/maximum recommendations anyway.

[mindwreck]

22.5 is very low. Probably won't cycle the gun. I started with 23 in my 20in AR and it shot underpowered like wolf does. 23.8 cycled my ARs fine but 24.5grns with 1.224 OAL runs best in my guns.

[gemini1]

Guys thanks for the response. Keep em coming pls.

So I can be safe following the 63 grains data Hodgdon has online?
It's actually confusing me now. The Hodgdon online site as well as the Lee load data shows 63 grains min of 22.5 and max load of 25.0
The Lyman 49th list the 63 grain min at 23.7 and max at 26.4

Which one should I follow? Will any load makes any difference in barrel length as well as type of primer?
And if I may repeat it. The bullets I have is generic, I have a feeling it may not be the same length as the M855 green tip steel core bullets. Will there be any pressure issues when seating this shorter generic bullet?
I'm using a 16" barrel 5.56 chamber 1/7 twist and tula primer KVB223M. If that matters.

[mindwreck]

general rule. shorter barrel little more powder to compensate for less burn time for same velocity.

but best rule of all. work up loads in your gun. every guns different. personally I would go 23.7grn due to past experience with MY GUN.

[Flouncer]

Here

Speer #12 shows a start load of 23.0 grains and a not to exceed of 25.0 for H335 and 62gr bullets.

Sierra 4th Edition shows 23.0 to 25.9 for the same with their 63 grain.

Start low, and you have.

Sleep easy.

[gemini1]

Thank you Mindwreck & Flouncer.

So I dont need to worry about possible higher pressure for this generic bullet which most likely is shorter than the M855?

I just pulled the 10 test loads I did which were loaded at 22.0 grains. The Frankford kinetic bullet puller is a real pain to use with light weight ammos. I probably did over 40 whacks to get the bullet out. I should have bought the cam lock puller type.

[Kappy]

I wouldn't do what I do... because God loves an idiot... so I think he protects me.

If I have a bullet weight for which I do not have a load, I look at the load above and below. I find something in the tolerable range for both of them and use that as my load. It hasn't failed yet.

[ireload]

I wouldn't do what I do... because God loves an idiot... so I think he protects me.

If I have a bullet weight for which I do not have a load, I look at the load above and below. I find something in the tolerable range for both of them and use that as my load. It hasn't failed yet.

Well Cappy your not the only idiot since I do the same.

[ireload]

I wouldn't do what I do... because God loves an idiot... so I think he protects me.

If I have a bullet weight for which I do not have a load, I look at the load above and below. I find something in the tolerable range for both of them and use that as my load. It hasn't failed yet.

Well Cappy your not the only idiot since I do the same.


"Oops the dreaded double tap".

[Wrangler John]

Just don't back off too low on that powder charge, in a few instances that can cause extremely high pressures, where the powder "detonates" rather than burns. This is especially true of ball powders. The exact cause of the phenomena is not understood. I have had this occur on a auto-progressive press due to a piece of debris from a powder canister falling into a powder measure reservoir undetected that held back a portion of the charge. While no harm was done, other than the bullet fragmenting in flight and destroying a chronograph screen, it is dangerous. That's why some load data notes not to reduce charges below the minimum listed.

As the above posters mentioned, just use starting data for equal or slightly heavier weight bullets similar in design. When I emailed a company for data, I was advised to use any published 55 grain bullet data for their 50 grain bullet as a starting point. Similar in design means not substituting a flat base bullet for a boat tail bullet, or a monolithic copper bullet for a lead core design, ect.

Also, remember that the bullet puller is a handloader's eraser. You do have one?

[Kappy]

Just don't back off too low on that powder charge, in a few instances that can cause extremely high pressures, where the powder "detonates" rather than burns. This is especially true of ball powders. The exact cause of the phenomena is not understood. I have had this occur on a auto-progressive press due to a piece of debris from a powder canister falling into a powder measure reservoir undetected that held back a portion of the charge. While no harm was done, other than the bullet fragmenting in flight and destroying a chronograph screen, it is dangerous. That's why some load data notes not to reduce charges below the minimum listed.

As the above posters mentioned, just use starting data for equal or slightly heavier weight bullets similar in design. When I emailed a company for data, I was advised to use any published 55 grain bullet data for their 50 grain bullet as a starting point. Similar in design means not substituting a flat base bullet for a boat tail bullet, or a monolithic copper bullet for a lead core design, ect.

Also, remember that the bullet puller is a handloader's eraser. You do have one?

I always wondered why there was a low! Thanks for that. I was thinking.. "If it leaves the barrel, who cares?"


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