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  • #16
    problemchild
    Banned
    • Oct 2005
    • 6959

    Originally posted by bohoki
    well i dont like buying 5000 bullets and 10,000 primers and a case of 8 pound powder

    i never see a baggie of 100 bullets less than $10 and primers everywhere i can go buy them wants at least $25 a 1000 or $3 for 100

    also i prefer us made ones

    i love tac even though its made in belgium
    Why reload 100 at a time? I can buy wolf ammo cheaper than you reload and shoot all day without the hassle.

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    • #17
      Kappy
      Calguns Addict
      • Jul 2007
      • 5349

      Originally posted by problemchild
      Why reload 100 at a time? I can buy wolf ammo cheaper than you reload and shoot all day without the hassle.
      Because handloads are more accurate than Wolf is.
      Facts are stubborn things; and whatever may be our wishes, our inclinations, or the dictates of our passions, they cannot alter the state of facts and evidence.

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      • #18
        Cowboy T
        Calguns Addict
        • Mar 2010
        • 5725

        OP, are you going for accuracy, lower price, assured ammo availability, or a combination of the three? If it's some combination, is there a "prime" goal that you have? This might help us to advise you on this.

        Personally, I think it's a great idea to get set up for reloading, even if you just break even, because CA has already tried AB 962 and very nearly made it, but for a sensible court that struck it down as un-Constitutional. But they will try again. So, every shooter in California that can reload, should. Just my view.

        For presses, I now generally recommend Lee's Classic Turret Press or an inexpensive single-stage (e. g. the Breech-Lock Challenger) for new folks getting started. Progressives like LnL AP's, Pro 1000's, all Dillon models, etc. will always be there after getting some experience.

        Here's what I'd recommend to you for getting started. Since you're reloading .223, even if you're weighing the bullets, the 100gr capacity of the scale will not be a problem. This and a set o' .223 dies should do the trick.



        Remember, folks, the primary goal here is to get the OP started and see if he likes it. I suggest we keep it as easy (including up-front cost) as we can.

        - T
        Last edited by Cowboy T; 11-15-2012, 7:12 AM. Reason: Pointed the OP to a specific kit for his/her consideration
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        • #19
          JNunez23
          Veteran Member
          • Jan 2012
          • 2755

          ^^^^ Great advice Cowboy T.
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          • #20
            Kappy
            Calguns Addict
            • Jul 2007
            • 5349

            Do we have a budget for this?


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            • #21
              AeroEngi
              Veteran Member
              • Oct 2010
              • 2887

              Make sure the brass that comes with the ammo you're buying is boxer primed and not berdan primed. Berdan primed will break your decapping pin in your die.

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              • #22
                gemini1
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2008
                • 2230

                I spent $199. shipped for the Lee Breechlock kit alongh with dies for 223 and 9MM. The caliper, Lyman 49th ed and Frankford Arsenal bullet puller from Amazon.com, cost me around $50+.
                But as for the bullet puller, after trying it out on some 223 ammo, I should have instead bought the cam lock puller for a few $ more. The kinetic puller I tried, had me whacking it for like 40 times before the bullet dropped from the casing, and it wasn't even crimp.
                Last edited by gemini1; 11-17-2012, 10:25 PM.

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                • #23
                  dlouie87
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 1537

                  When people reload for accuracy, having a cheaper round is not the biggest factor. Its getting a cartridge and it's load/components near perfect for their firearms.

                  Example using custom load with lupua brass on .308:

                  Might be the around the same price for a round of factory 175 federal gold match but since the reloader has the ability to mess with powder weight and different projectiles, a reloader can "produce" a far more superior and accurate load for around the price.

                  So when I think about reloading, I think about getting the best possible round for my firearms, the price variable plays a role but not a huge one. Having the free ability to customize the loads to a specific firearm is the perk of reloading.... with that, you can create plinking ammo too.
                  Last edited by dlouie87; 11-18-2012, 8:45 AM.
                  -D

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                  • #24
                    ar15barrels
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 57157

                    Originally posted by dlouie87
                    When people reload for accuracy, having a cheaper round is not the biggest factor.

                    Having the free ability to customize the loads to a specific firearm is the perk of reloading.... with that, you can create plinking ammo too.
                    Exactly.

                    I load two different kinds of 223 ammo:

                    Blasting
                    0.07 55gr fmj bullet
                    0.03 surplus powder
                    0.01 primer
                    0.11 total cost per round

                    Precision
                    0.17 75gr Amax bullet
                    0.05 varget powder
                    0.03 match primer
                    0.25 total cost per round
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                    • #25
                      roc_my_tims
                      Senior Member
                      • Oct 2011
                      • 1522

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                      • #26
                        Munny$hot
                        Veteran Member
                        • Jul 2011
                        • 3665

                        Only advise is be realistic with how much shooting are you going to do. I bought a Dillon 650 years ago but have never used it to its full potential. Also some tips go slow, mount you press to something rock solid, buy a real bullet puller ( Hornady cam lock) not a kinetic hammer, never force anything, wear safety glasses, buy a case gauge for every caliber, inspect every round epically in the beginning, remember the hottest load doesn't equal the most accurate, examine your brass after firing to look for pressure signs, and be OCD with everything which will keep you safe.
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