45ACP help resizing

[tdyoung1958]

anybody in Santa Cruz have a 4 die set up I can use to resize some OEM that won't feed in my Sig 1911.

Hornaday and their XTP's. Have about 100 that need to get resized to run right

[rsrocket1]

You might simply need a Lee Factory Crimp Die. Can you pick one up locally?

[huckberry668]

are you saying you're resizing factory ammo so it'll feed proper in your Sig 1911? How do you figure the ammo needs 'resizing'? and what kinds of feeding failure are you experiencing?

[nothing4u]

Take out the barrel and put the round in backwards. If it drops in fine its most likely a crimp issue.

[tdyoung1958]

it feeds until the last 1/8 of a inch and then will jam and be a PITA to get out, I know when I reloaded back in PA that reloads would do the same thing, until we sized them again once loaded, then would feed just fine

unfortunatly, my reloading stuff is in PA and I'm in CA for work until March of 2014

[M27]

What is the history of the brass?

Has it been shot in the same pistol before?

what is the length of your brass?

Do you have "glocked" brass?

I seams like maybe the resizing die hasen't been set up right?

[tdyoung1958]

What is the history of the brass?

Has it been shot in the same pistol before?

what is the length of your brass?

Do you have "glocked" brass?

I seams like maybe the resizing die hasen't been set up right?

it's new OEM Hornaday XTP . . . just needs resized to run right
Hornaday uses a three die setup for loading, doesn't crimp, size or anything but package it once loaded

just not looking to go buy another press and sizing die

[77bawls]

Do you have "glocked" brass?

What's that?

[Chief-7700]

Something is not clear to me:
1. Are these loaded rounds?

[huckberry668]

What's that?

the ones on the right are the 'Glocked' cases after resizing. The so called 'unsupported' (which is not true) Glock barrels create an extra large bulge around the base of the cases that the resizing die can't remove. They stick in chambers of some guns some times preventing gun from going into battery.

One way to tell if the cases are Glocked is look for a bright ring around the base if it gets stuck.

[huckberry668]

it's new OEM Hornaday XTP . . . just needs resized to run right
Hornaday uses a three die setup for loading, doesn't crimp, size or anything but package it once loaded

just not looking to go buy another press and sizing die

Makes no sense to me... I'm not sure I fully understand you. It shouldn't need resizing if it's original/new Hornady factory loaded ammo. New factory rounds don't get sized after being loaded. I'm not sure what the '3 die' set up is referencing.

Have you try other brands of ammo? do they shoot ok thru the same gun?

[M27]

Makes no sense to me... I'm not sure I fully understand you. It shouldn't need resizing if it's original/new Hornady factory loaded ammo. New factory rounds don't get sized after being loaded. I'm not sure what the '3 die' set up is referencing.

Have you try other brands of ammo? do they shoot ok thru the same gun?

I'm lost as well!

how do you resize loaded ammo?

[tdyoung1958]

it's the whole difference between a 3 die reloading set up and a 4 die reloading setup

4 die setups resize the shell once loaded, 3 does not . . . Hornaday uses the 3 die process as do most reloaders. My Sig has a match grade barrel that has higher tolerances and needs the 4 step process otherwise it doesn't feed right. Doesn't matter that it's factory ammo, it's how they do their process. Remington uses a 4 step process with their Golden Saber line which is what I've been using. But I can't find anybody that sells them around here.

I have a little under 100 Hornaday XTP's that need sized to feed right. Two ways to do it, use a 3 die press and remove the primer punch from the sizing die or use a 4 die press and the 4th die sizes it

[huckberry668]

I have a little under 100 Hornaday XTP's that need sized to feed right. Two ways to do it, use a 3 die press and remove the primer punch from the sizing die or use a 4 die press and the 4th die sizes it

Absolutely NOT!! You'll be sizing the bullet WAY under size if you use the sizing die to size a loaded round. You'll be seeing the bullet fly out of your barrel key-holing all over the place. I have seen this first hand.

The 4th die usually just 'crimps' the loaded round. I only know of 'Lee Factory Crimp Die' having a sizing ring for the loaded cartridges. The sizing ring on LFCD is sized to 'bullet diameter + case thicknessx2'.

I still don't know how you came to the conclusion Hornady uses a 3 die set up or Remington uses a 4-die set up. And it still makes no sense how 3 die verse 4 die makes any difference if the 4th die doesn't size the loaded round. Do you have a source for this info?

[BSlacker]

45ACP uses a taper crimp in the last station. A 3 die set up seats and taper crimps in the same die 4 die separates seat and crimp. Factories do not use standard dies but the quality control and inspection is good and I would be shocked to find the ammo at fault. You should just give them a slight taper crimp. If you resize loaded ammo you ruin the bullet diameter. It is the crimp die that will just take care of the mouth area. I don't think you know what the problem is. Instead of

it feeds until the last 1/8 of a inch and then will jam and be a PITA to get out,

get some actual measurements on the chamber and ammo. You are looking for a taper crimp die which you most likely have just look on the dies. Get a chamber gauge! Don't use the sizing die!