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  • #16
    bruce381
    Senior Member
    • Feb 2009
    • 2452

    ""Talking with some folks online and in person, it seems like the culprit might be bullet stickiness or lack of lubrication, or oversize bullets. Looking at the imprint of the lands, I'm inclined to think these may be slightly oversize - perhaps irregular plating.""

    who ever told you that do not ever listen to them again.

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    • #17
      Bill Steele
      Calguns Addict
      • Sep 2010
      • 5028

      Originally posted by bruce381
      ""Talking with some folks online and in person, it seems like the culprit might be bullet stickiness or lack of lubrication, or oversize bullets. Looking at the imprint of the lands, I'm inclined to think these may be slightly oversize - perhaps irregular plating.""

      who ever told you that do not ever listen to them again.
      Best advice I have read on the Internet in a long time.
      When asked what qualities he most valued in his generals, Napoleon said, "give me lucky ones."

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      • #18
        SexualChocolate
        Member
        • Jan 2010
        • 282

        Originally posted by shooterbill
        It's not the bullets. It is the one pulling the handle on the press.
        This

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        • #19
          trigger hippie
          Member
          • Mar 2012
          • 473

          Originally posted by bruce381
          Not to be a jerk but your problem is in the loading IE you are not doing it right. I have shot them, 5.0-5.5 gr Bulleye and no poblems.

          Start of with a decent load and make sure all the varibles are correct as in sizing, priming etc .

          i use a OAL of about 1.250 with a tapper crimp to .471-.472

          double check your setup a squib is always a powder issue.
          Yeah, on examination and reading, it's me or a variant thereof on both counts.

          I shoot bullets, not ego out of my guns, so I don't mind admitting that I probably bollixed it up on this one

          First one's a weak charge I'm thinking (though still an oddity considering the other low-charge test bullets shot fine and didn't squib), second one is no charge or reloaded spent casing.

          That "kthooooooop" sound really, really sucked, haha. I stood there pointing the gun downrange counting to 30 like a moron thinking about all the crap that could've gone wrong.

          Yay, adventures in reloading.
          I believe in peace, love and extremely violent weapons systems... just in case that whole peace-and-love thing doesn't work out.

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          • #20
            trigger hippie
            Member
            • Mar 2012
            • 473

            Originally posted by M27
            I am on the side that it is not a bullet issue

            I believe Rainier are .452 to begin with even if they were .453 they would strip there platting before they got stuck in the barrel, that steel barrel is way harder than that thin copper, or not go into battery.

            also that "fairly aggressive crimp" is a big don't with plated bullets, bell as little as possible then crimp just enough to remove the bell and if you really feel like it is necessary a 1/4 turn more at most

            with that many squibs, even at 3.6gn which has to be at least 7000psi should be plenty to send the projectile out the barrel. I feel you need to pay more attention to your reloading procedures 50 pieces belled, primed brass in the reloading tray, charge all 50, then with a flashlight visually confirm every one is charged and not double charged
            Thanks for the response.

            Is it possible that my, er... "fairly aggressive crimp"... raised up a flange which could've pushed diameter out of spec? edit: this seems fairly improbable to me actually upon reflection; I'm using what I believe is a taper crimp (lee factory crimp die

            Concur with this poster and the above as well about no more batch processing.
            Last edited by trigger hippie; 08-27-2012, 9:48 PM.
            I believe in peace, love and extremely violent weapons systems... just in case that whole peace-and-love thing doesn't work out.

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            • #21
              M27
              Senior Member
              • Apr 2011
              • 871

              Originally posted by trigger hippie
              Thanks for the response.

              Is it possible that my, er... "fairly aggressive crimp"... raised up a flange which could've pushed diameter out of spec? edit: this seems fairly improbable to me actually upon reflection; I'm using what I believe is a taper crimp (lee factory crimp die

              Concur with this poster and the above as well about no more batch processing.
              If you were crimping and seating in the same step It is very possible especially if your crimp is starting before your bullet is fully seated. Remember plated bullets use a very soft lead, not an alloyed lead like cast.

              But because you are crimping in a separate step it is not very likely.

              finish your first round then pull the bullet there should only be a light ring around the bullet from your crimp
              I will share my opinion and my load data, BUT I am just a guy with too many cigars and too many guns. Whatever I say is probably wrong.

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              • #22
                bruce381
                Senior Member
                • Feb 2009
                • 2452

                good thing the sound was off and YOU reconized that and stopped, you could have had a kaboom. Start with basics what machine do you have how do you charge the case and how do you weight the charge?

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                • #23
                  CGT80
                  Veteran Member
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 2981

                  I haven't noticed a difference between berrys and rainier plated bullets in my pistols. I use win 231 for all of my pistols as well. Plated bullets run just fine. I prefer montana gold JHP, but have shot 10k+ plated bullets and haven't had a sqib or other major problem yet. Sometimes it can take some work to get your ammo just right. Double check everything and give it another go.
                  He who dies with the most tools/toys wins

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