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  • filric48
    Member
    • Jul 2011
    • 324

    My first .452

    These are the .452 230gr I cast the other day, need to re size to .451 and lube and my new Water Buffalo Grips.




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  • #2
    gunboat
    Veteran Member
    • Apr 2008
    • 3288

    They look very good -- I just see one bitsy wrinkle in the lower ledt corner of the photo :-)
    Lee mould? what lube and sizer?

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    • #3
      CalTeacher
      Senior Member
      • Oct 2010
      • 828

      So why are you sizing down to .451?

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      • #4
        bumpo628
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2009
        • 1142

        You should be able to shoot lead bullets at .452 in most 45's. I would still run them all through a .452 sizer to make sure they are consistent.
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        • #5
          M27
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2011
          • 871

          they look good what mold are you using?
          I will share my opinion and my load data, BUT I am just a guy with too many cigars and too many guns. Whatever I say is probably wrong.

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          • #6
            filric48
            Member
            • Jul 2011
            • 324

            Lyman book says to re size to .451 Lee mold and re sizer.

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            • #7
              lpspinner
              Senior Member
              • Oct 2005
              • 1164

              Lead bullets are usually sized down to .452.
              Some guys like their powder like their women, hot, cheap, dirty, that would be TiteGroup. -CocoBolo

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              • #8
                CalTeacher
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2010
                • 828

                Shoot them at .452 first. Have you measured a sample of the bullets yet? My molds often throw. 001 over what is listed and I still don't resize because they shoot really well. My .452 lee mold for 230 gr boolits actually throws .453 sized boolits and they shoot great. Unless you have an exceptionally tight bore, leave them as is, lube and shoot. An undersized boolit will lead your barrel badly and lead to poor accuracy.

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                • #9
                  RugerNo1
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2008
                  • 1644

                  I suggest that you slug your bore and figure out which size you should go with before simply applying any advice getting thrown out.
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                  • #10
                    Cowboy T
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 5725

                    +1. 0.451", the nominal barrel diameter for .45 ACP (and .45 Colt after WWII) is typically for jacketed bullets. Cast boolits need to be 0.001" larger than the bore size for optimum gripping by the rifling.

                    BTW...good looking boolits there. :-)
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                    • #11
                      bruce381
                      Senior Member
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 2454

                      Originally posted by filric48
                      Lyman book says to re size to .451 Lee mold and re sizer.
                      there wrong try them at .452 first.
                      I have leading like a swerer pipe in 1911's if they are .451 at .452 NO leading at all.
                      I also tapper crimp to .471

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                      • #12
                        eaglemike
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                        • Jan 2008
                        • 3997

                        Another vote for .452. Unless you slug your barrel and it's .4505 or smaller, you'll have better luck with .452. A little less leading too. The proper tight fit is good.
                        There are some people that it's just not worth engaging.

                        It's a muzzle BRAKE, not a muzzle break. Or is your muzzle tired?

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                        • #13
                          lpspinner
                          Senior Member
                          • Oct 2005
                          • 1164

                          Originally posted by bruce381
                          there wrong try them at .452 first.
                          I have leading like a swerer pipe in 1911's if they are .451 at .452 NO leading at all.
                          I also tapper crimp to .471

                          Good point...For me, I don't use the Lee Factory Crimp die with Moly's or Lead, but the Dillon Taper Crimp die.
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                          • #14
                            stilly
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                            • Jul 2009
                            • 10685

                            Originally posted by RugerNo1
                            I suggest that you slug your bore and figure out which size you should go with before simply applying any advice getting thrown out.
                            I do not think you have slugged a barrel before. I did it ONCE and it HURT. Gave my knuckle a bruise for a two week span...

                            Never again will I do that and it did nothing for my accuracy but put a ding on it when it flew out of the vise and onto the floor...
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                            • #15
                              RugerNo1
                              Senior Member
                              • Jul 2008
                              • 1644

                              Originally posted by stilly
                              I do not think you have slugged a barrel before. I did it ONCE and it HURT. Gave my knuckle a bruise for a two week span...

                              Never again will I do that and it did nothing for my accuracy but put a ding on it when it flew out of the vise and onto the floor...
                              I slugged a Finnish M39 about a year ago using this tutorial. I was researching if reloading would be worth it for that particular rifle, but I never got around to buying the dies for it. I have never bothered with bore slugging again and all I know is that many of the old timer reloaders, that I have personally spoken with, advised doing so if you are going to shoot self casted lead bullets. Perhaps times have changed?
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