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  • #16
    M27
    Senior Member
    • Apr 2011
    • 871

    Originally posted by joelogic
    Anyone else find it dirty? It would leave 2" of carbon near the muzzle of my USP after only 1-200 rounds.
    It does tend to be dirty when using lower power loads. But when using near max loads I find it is rather clean.
    I will share my opinion and my load data, BUT I am just a guy with too many cigars and too many guns. Whatever I say is probably wrong.

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    • #17
      joelogic
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2008
      • 6593

      Clean when max, dirty when min. Seems too complicated. I will stick with 700x.
      Micro/Mini Reflex Red Dot Sight Mount for the M1, M1a/M14 platform

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      • #18
        lpspinner
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2005
        • 1164

        The carbon at the end of the muzzle, wipes right off...no biggie. Also, if you look down the barrel, I find no unburnt powder residue...kinda nice. I jumped on the Titegroup bandwagon about 4 years ago and have never looked back.

        Yes, with lead and moly's...if you load hot...it can get a little smokey.
        I agree that with TG, if you're not paying attention it's easy to double charge and not realize it...so PAY Attention.
        Some guys like their powder like their women, hot, cheap, dirty, that would be TiteGroup. -CocoBolo

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        • #19
          mjmagee67
          Veteran Member
          • Jun 2011
          • 2771

          From my limited Titegroup experience it is a wonderful 45acp powder. Just yesterday I was shooting at the local range and a friend of mine handed me 10 home-brew bullets. They were 200gr SWC (Home cast) over 4.6gr of Titegroup. At 10 yards I put all ten in a 1.5 group while standing. Nice modest recoil, some smoke, and seemed very accurate. If I didn't like to use one powder for all my handguns (9, 38, 40, & 45) I might give Titegroup a try, but I use Power Pistol.
          If you want change you have to put in your 2 cents, you can't just sit on the sidelines and whine.

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          • #20
            Californio
            CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
            CGN Contributor - Lifetime
            • Dec 2006
            • 4169

            Originally posted by M27
            It does tend to be dirty when using lower power loads. But when using near max loads I find it is rather clean.
            I use W231 in my Semi's but it is dirty in my 625 5" revolver. I have 1 lb of TG to try in my Revolver over a 200 or 230 grain plated lead bullet.

            So how hot, (FPS) does the TG load need to be so it is clean and not dirty?
            "The California matrix of gun control laws is among the harshest in the nation and are filled with criminal law traps for people of common intelligence who desire to obey the law." - U.S. District Judge Roger T. Benitez

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            • #21
              tdyoung1958
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2011
              • 798

              I usually use Bullseye for handguns and Titegroup for rifles

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              • #22
                Mac Attack
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2008
                • 2126

                Been using titegroup for years for loading .45ACP. My load is a 200 gr SWC over 4.5 gr charge of TG.

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                • #23
                  M27
                  Senior Member
                  • Apr 2011
                  • 871

                  Originally posted by Californio
                  I use W231 in my Semi's but it is dirty in my 625 5" revolver. I have 1 lb of TG to try in my Revolver over a 200 or 230 grain plated lead bullet.

                  So how hot, (FPS) does the TG load need to be so it is clean and not dirty?
                  from hodgdon, the tightgroup load for 230 LRN is between 4 and 4.8 gn

                  I use 4.5gn with moly 230gn projectile and there is no unburned powder in the barrel with minimal carbon build up after 250 rounds. Any thing that left behind by the powder easy comes off with hopppes no.9

                  I don't think FPS is going to be the determining factor I think it has to do with CUP pressure.

                  I would guess that any load with a cup pressure of at least 15,000 is going to burn clean.

                  that in a 230gn plated bullet (guessing) that might translate to 800 FPS
                  Last edited by M27; 05-28-2012, 9:32 PM.
                  I will share my opinion and my load data, BUT I am just a guy with too many cigars and too many guns. Whatever I say is probably wrong.

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                  • #24
                    lpspinner
                    Senior Member
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 1164

                    My Titegroup loads for .45acp...

                    Published Max is 4.8gr.

                    All loads have an OAL 1.260
                    Crimp .470

                    Bear Creek 230gr RN
                    4.5gr

                    Zero 230gr FMJ
                    Montana Gold 230gr FMJ
                    X-Treme 230gr Plated RN
                    4.7gr


                    This was mainly for my 1911, but have since used the same loads for my XD Tactical and my G21SF
                    Last edited by lpspinner; 05-28-2012, 9:54 PM.
                    Some guys like their powder like their women, hot, cheap, dirty, that would be TiteGroup. -CocoBolo

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