Recommended Competition 9mm load book?

[skidout67]

I'm going to start searching Amazon in a few minutes, but does have any good load book for 9mm competition loads they would recommend? A friend of mine is going to compete in the Police Games, and we want to try a few different loads and find one he likes!
When I was stationed at Nellis AFB, NV, I was friends with a couple guys that competed with .45's... They used to tell me how they load super light loads, and the goal was only to cycle the gun, punch a hole in the paper, and keep POI=POA. Thanks for any leads. Always great to hear from the best!!

Aaron

[joelogic]

What is a book? Google will turn up loads all day long.

Why dont you post gun, bullet, powder and we can reply.

[gary2232]

Try Brians forum lots of good competive loading info there. http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?act=idx

Sorry to hijack this thread but? I am new to reloading and why do I need to by these different reloading books ?? From what I can tell the powder manufactures post all that info on there web sites. Is there other info in the reloading books I need?

[DRAB_81]

Every published load I've ever needed, I've found online. Between here, Glocktalk & BE forums, I'll never need any books for data.

As stated above, answer these questions so we can get you the info you need.

1. What gun?
2. What competition?
3. What bullet weight?
4. What powder(s) do you have?

Most guys run 147's or 124's for 9mm in competition. I tried the 147's, but I like the 124's much better. It's a personal preference of feel, between the two. I may also try some 135gr bullets next, either Bayou or Bear Creek.

[joelogic]

The reloading books are more for instruction/directions. They are also a good way to double check other info.

[r3dn3ck]

Keep a couple books. I like my Speer manual best but I have others. Bullets of the same weight can have different bearing surfaces so you need to be looking at load data that's valid for your bullet.

I'd start at IMR's site. They have their full load data set online easy to deal with and it's not limited to 1 brand of bullet like say, my speer manual is.

[skidout67]

This will be for a Glock 34. 4th gen, 5.32" bbl. bullet most likely 124 RN or FL. Powder on hand is one of the shopping list items once we look at a bunch of different loads. I'm getting some good feedback on Power Pistol though. Currently I have Blue Dot for pistol loads, (soon to retire), and Red Dot for my shotshell loads. Of coarse I will Google, and will be visiting Brian's site for the first time here in a little bit. I am a Novice reloader, and like to look at as much load data as I can and pick from those. I do agree, that most books I have looked at, have only offered me 1 or 2 specific recipies I use. As for powder manufacturing sites, I use Alliantpowder's website for my shotshell recipies exclusively, but there does seem to be a lot more variations in pistol data!

[Chief-7700]

http://www.reloadammo.com/

http://www.handloads.com/

[DRAB_81]

Now we're talking. For 124gr bullets (Precision Delta JHP), I have tried Titegroup, WSF & WST. I loaded up a bunch of each, and shot them side by side at the range. I also shot a couple stages with each load at my last match. The WSF load felt the best to me, and I also got better stage scores with it.

Popular powders for 124gr lead in competition are WSF, WST, Solo 1000, N320. These powders tend to smoke less with lead. Power Pistol is a great powder for 9mm, but I don't know of anyone using it in competition. If they are, they are probably trying to duplicate factory defense ammo, not make light loads that barely cycle the slide.

The standard OAL's for Glocks are 1.135" for LRN/FMJ, and 1.125" for JHP's. You'll also need to get a Jager GEN 4 Polymer Guide Rod & 13# ISMI spring to cycle those light loads properly. They have all functioned my GEN 4 G17 fine, but the slide cycles a lot slower when I'm running the stock RSA. The polymer version is necessary if you want to be legal in IDPA SSP & USPSA Production, since the factory GEN 4 RSA is polymer.

[skidout67]

Excellent info Meathead9! I'll look into some WSF, and the OAL's will take out a lot of the trail and error! I'll have him look into the guide rod and spring also! He will like idea of buying more "toys" for his rig!

[skidout67]

http://www.reloadammo.com/
http://www.handloads.com/

Nice sites, a man can get lost in all that load data 'porn'.
Definitely going to bookmark these! Thanks again!

Aaron

[DRAB_81]

Excellent info Meathead9! I'll look into some WSF, and the OAL's will take out a lot of the trail and error! I'll have him look into the guide rod and spring also! He will like idea of buying more "toys" for his rig!

I'm glad to help. Of course, that's my own personal favorite. You will most likely have to play with different bullets & powders to find yours.

Check this out too. It's a link to the search results for BE Forums "124gr load"

http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=safari&biw=320&bih=416&q=site%3Abrianenos.com+124gr+loads&oq=site%3Abrianenos.com+124gr+loads&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&gs_l=mobile-gws-serp.3...6549l17748l0l18729l65l42l3l0l0l16l356l7466l0j28j11j1l42l0.glah%2Ccov%3D-98.&mvs=0

[CGT80]

124 gr Montana Gold JHP over 4.2 grains of Win 231 seated to 1.115" works well for my mom's XD. I run the same load in my XD but can run it to 1.130" with my 40 cal mags (gun is an XD 40 with a barsto 9mm barrel fit to gun). This load is aprox. 970 fps out of my barsto barrel. It is as weak as I can go and still shoot weak hand. A little hotter load would help swing the dualling trees around, but less recoil is faster for me. My XD is a limited gun, so no comp to deal with. I am still running the original xd 40 recoil spring with 30k rounds on it. Your gun may require a slightly different load.

My mom needed a hot load at first due to limp wristing. Now she can run the same load I use with no problems.

[Chief-7700]

"I am still running the original xd 40 recoil spring with 30k rounds on it." Why not change out the spring? Get a new recoil spring and compare the one in your gun with the new one
might be surprised by the difference.
Chief

[CGT80]

The current spring seems to run fine, so I haven't bothered to fix what isn't broken. It seems to me that a stiffer spring would just need a hotter load to cycle the same. Do you have any experience with a new vs. well used spring and light loads?