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  • grant22
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2011
    • 625

    Reloading Kaboom Yesterday - Please Learn From This

    Yesterday afternoon I was converting my 550 from .223 to .38 to do a small batch in my living room. I had used my primer pick up tube to grab about fifty primers and had it in my left hand, placed it at the top of the 550 primer magazine, and with my right hand started to pull the pin. Kaboom!

    Although it was a single explosion, they all blew. I stood there in disbelief but then realized I was injured. It had caused 2 wounds. My left thumb and left middle finger both had dime sized holes blown out (or in). I guess I bled about 250 cc's and I couldn't hear out of my left ear. The hearing has mostly come back at this point.

    Refer to the pics to see what it did to the primer tube. Bits of metal were found at the furthest distances possible in the room, some primers projectiled through the ceiling, and there is a larger hole in the ceiling, also. The wounds are all dressed, so pics of that will be later.

    I am one of those that always needs to know what happened, was it my fault, and what could be done differently next time, especially to help keep it from happening again.

    I can't think of anything I did wrong in this operation. The er doc thinks it may have been static electricity that ignited one primer which then caused a chain reaction. Since we've been having a dry wind for 2 days here in Havasu, his theory makes some logical sense. I will be calling Dillon to find out if they have any reports of this happening before and if they have any solutions for this type of issue.

    Hers's what I'll be doing differently in the future (not sure if I'll be continuing reloading):

    -Eye protection. This incident could have been ALOT worse and I'm absolutely astonished this didn't take out my eyes. It goes to show......all gear all the time! Even a mundane task such as transferring primers deserves respect.

    -No more reloading in the house for me. Luckily the gf was at work but my poor little dog was right next to me when it happened and I think she was very frightened.

    -Also, there have been times where the girlfriend wanted to pickup the primers with a p/u tube and transferred them. I won't be allowing that again.

    Here are some pics. Please be safe guys, and as always, any other suggestions or input is greatly appreciated.

    Here's the tube and all the fragments we picked up around the room.


    Here's the top of the low primer alarm.








    Last edited by grant22; 01-16-2012, 8:57 PM.
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  • #2
    email
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2011
    • 2503

    Ouch. Heal up. Sorry this happened.

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    • #3
      bonzaiii
      Member
      • Aug 2011
      • 240

      Dude, I'm so glad it wasn't worse. I was just in the garage making a test round WITHOUT my safety glasses, that won't happen again.
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      • #4
        rockdogz
        Member
        • Oct 2009
        • 447

        Hmm, this is scary.... glad you weren't seriously hurt. I always have eye protection when dealing with primers. I would be very interested to hear if you found the cause of this!

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        • #5
          Maltese Falcon
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          CGN Contributor
          • Feb 2009
          • 6717

          Yikes, I am just getting into reloading. Stay safe.

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          • #6
            theduece
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2010
            • 768

            Woah... glad your ok.

            Are you on carpet? It doesn't look like and your in AZ so I'm thinking no but. Nothing was jammed or smashed?

            Btw Thanks for the safety reminder I tend to get real lax on the ears and eyes while reloading.
            ......

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            • #7
              Zartan
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              • Nov 2010
              • 6269

              Crazy man. I wonder if an electronics grounding wrist strap would help alleviate the possibility of SE buildup
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              • #8
                RazzB7
                Veteran Member
                • Jul 2011
                • 3419

                Sorry to hear about your mishap. Glad that nobody was seriously hurt. I am curious to that cause if you manage to find it out.
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                • #9
                  grant22
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2011
                  • 625

                  Thanks guys.

                  -No carpet, I was on tile. I was actually wearing rubber flip flops which I'd think would be an insulator from static electricity from the ground. I guess static is all around us though, not just the ground.

                  -There was nothing jammed, nothing forced, and nothing even moved. It occured just as I was removing the pin. The pin was not even removed yet, so the primers weren't even dropping yet. If static was the cause, I think there's a chance that the metal pin + static could have sparked??? Not sure, but I just left a message at Dillon.

                  -I'm looking into those anti-static bracelets, possibly gloves that could withstand the explosive force (wondering if Kevlar gloves would work), and I'd even like to talk to Dillon about steel primer p/u tubes or some type of non-static pick up tubes.

                  -If you look at the failure of the tube, it shows what a weak link that is in our general reloading operation. Then look at the tube (I'd even call it a blast tube) that holds the primers in the Dillon. It appears to be steel.

                  -The only way I'll continue to reload is if I find out what caused this and if I find a way to make it safer. I understand reloading is dangerous, but I'm not going to hold an aluminum tube with primers again.

                  I promise I'll keep you guys informed.
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                  • #10
                    Low-Pressure
                    Senior Member
                    • Sep 2009
                    • 1758

                    Glad you're ok! It could have been a lot worst. I saw that you have tile flooring, I assume static electricity will be more present if you had carpeting? The only thing I can think of how to get rid of static is by touching a metal item before touching your press.... like what you do when you open your computer.....
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                    • #11
                      JamesY
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                      • Apr 2006
                      • 2652

                      Glad you're OK for the most part. Hopefully, you can find out the cause.

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                      • #12
                        theduece
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2010
                        • 768

                        Answers lead to quesions...

                        Originally posted by grant22
                        Thanks guys.

                        -No carpet, I was on tile. I was actually wearing rubber flip flops which I'd think would be an insulator from static electricity from the ground. I guess static is all around us though, not just the ground.
                        True but wouldnt the static "spark have jumped when you first reached for the tube?
                        -There was nothing jammed, nothing forced, and nothing even moved. It occured just as I was removing the pin. The pin was not even removed yet, so the primers weren't even dropping yet. If static was the cause, I think there's a chance that the metal pin + static could have sparked??? Not sure, but I just left a message at Dillon.

                        -I'm looking into those anti-static bracelets, possibly gloves that could withstand the explosive force (wondering if Kevlar gloves would work), and I'd even like to talk to Dillon about steel primer p/u tubes or some type of non-static pick up tubes.
                        Gloves that would withstand IMHO would be too bulky.
                        -If you look at the failure of the tube, it shows what a weak link that is in our general reloading operation. Then look at the tube (I'd even call it a blast tube) that holds the primers in the Dillon. It appears to be steel.
                        The exterior tube on your press is steel it is an outer casing there is an aluminum tube inside that is actually holding the primers. I may be wrong but my take is so that it redirects the blast upwards???
                        -The only way I'll continue to reload is if I find out what caused this and if I find a way to make it safer. I understand reloading is dangerous, but I'm not going to hold an aluminum tube with primers again.

                        I promise I'll keep you guys informed.
                        OK few other questions
                        Type of primer?
                        your bench wood, metal, in contact with the ground?
                        ......

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                        • #13
                          Dark Mod
                          Veteran Member
                          • Feb 2011
                          • 4284

                          Holy Crap!!! maybe see if you can MacGuyver a plastic pin so you dont have to wear any wrist straps. I hope this doesnt sour you on reloading for the rest of your life

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                          • #14
                            kmca
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2005
                            • 2371

                            It seems to me, the rubber flip flops insulated you from ground and the press is probably grounded. Conductive shoes would eliminate that problem as would the anti-static wrist strap grounded to the press. As you lowered the pick up tube to the press, that's probably when it sparked. I'm also interested in what Dillon has to say.

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                            • #15
                              BajaJames83
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jun 2011
                              • 6037

                              what kind of primers were they?
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