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  • Fyathyrio
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2009
    • 1082

    Drill press caddy for easy brass prep.

    Drill presses are great, but they lack a way to keep small parts, bits, chuck keys and other stuff handy. I'm also going to use mine as a brass prep station once the Possum Hollow case trimmers I ordered finally get shipped from backorder purgatory, which will require a way to keep the brass sorted as it goes through the stages. So, with time on my hands, some scraps of metal floating around, and half a plan I set to work.

    Here's the start of the bracket. It's 2" angle with some one inch wide tabs that'll bolt around the drill press support column.



    Drilling the bolt holes; by using wood to hold the pieces of metal in place, I can drill all four at once and ensure they line up correctly. Make sure you use some lube to keep the bit cool!



    Next up are the support legs. I used my multi-cutter to make nice 45* angles one the ends to be welded that will match nicely with the angle iron clamp when everything is in place. This will ensure things are straight and also back out of the way when doing other projects.



    There was no easy way to clamp these together for welding, but by using my tranny jack I at least had a stable platform and was able to bolt down the main bracket and only had one loose piece to hold. I'm welding the legs to what will be the back of the clamp to ensure things stay clear of the moving drill press parts. The jack makes a great adjustable welding platform.



    We're getting close. I welded a 1/4" thick spacer to the bottom of the legs to extend the lower piece of 1" x 1/8" flat stock out. This will allow the Akro bins to sit nicely without hitting the leg. To get the bin supports on straight I bolted the two halves together and clamped the whole assembly upright to the leg of my bench. That allowed my to use the floor and a spare piece of angle iron to hold the two pieces in place and keep everything on the same plane.



    Here's the completed assembly. I have some cheap imitation bins around, but they won't fit over the 1/8" thick metal. I also checked around Lowe's when I went to grab the bolts and the cheap Stanley ones they had also looked like they wouldn't fit. I recommend using Akro bins only, or thinner flat stock.



    My drill press has a collar at the top that will support the weight nicely without gorilla torquing the clamp. If yours doesn't have a similar collar, then wrapping it in some rubber sheet will increase grip and protect the column.

    Once I have the case trimmers I'll update this to show how this will eventually become a full brass prep station with trim, chamfer, and deburr all at one time without spending $300 or $400 bucks on a name brand one. I have the Dillon Rapid Trim for large batches on the Hornady LnL, but when it's time to just do some test loads, it's kind of a pain to set the progressive press up. When completed, this will make small brass batch processing a breeze.
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    LGB Loader
    Senior Member
    • Jun 2008
    • 727

    More power to ya...

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    • #3
      epcii
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      • Feb 2011
      • 637

      Interesting idea. Let us know how it works out.
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      • #4
        rumblebee
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        • May 2009
        • 1335

        nice job and clean looking!
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        • #5
          Fyathyrio
          Senior Member
          • Nov 2009
          • 1082

          OK, I got most of the rest of my stuff in for this project, so I spent a little time tonight putting it all together. First up is the parts. I got large and small Hornady primer pocket cleaners, Possum Hollow .308 Kwick Case Trimmer (.223 hasn't shown up yet), two Forster chamfer and deburring tools, and a Possum Hollow power adapter for each. The only constant complaint I could find about Possum Hollow products was the power adapter set screws like to strip out. By having one for each tool, I'll never have to take them out and risk that problem. At only $10 each, it's worth it.



          Next up is a drill clamp. I've had one of these for about 20 years now, and just got a 2nd one for this project. It was around $25 on Amazon, but has many more uses then this. The piece that holds the drill can rotate to any angle, or it can be placed on top. One hex bolt keeps it tight once set. The clamp can go around material up to about 2 1/2" thick, and is very stable once everything is tight. The hose clamp that goes around the drill body and the base the drill rests against are rubber coated for non-slip action and tool protection.



          Now it's time to clamp the drill in place, I've had this drill for about 15~20 years also. The drill must be variable speed with a trigger lock. The black dial on the trigger turns to adjust set speed, the red button on the bottom is what holds it in place. Hit the trigger to release and stop drill. These features are handy attributes to have in a drill anyway, you will be able to use this for other projects around the home, and Harbor Freight has one for about $18 right now. I just chuck up the Forster chamfer tool in the power adapter and set the speed I want, easy day.



          Here's the 2nd drill and clamp, it's a half inch one with the same attributes as above, and set to deburr. It's another one I've had for years. This is probably the most dangerous of the tasks as the sharp pointy bits are facing up, and the brass can potentially slip out and your fingers in. Use appropriate caution.



          Now, if I want to clean primer pockets, I use yet another drill I've had forever, it's a 3/8" 90* angle drill. I attach the flex shaft and chuck up the appropriate sized Hornady pocket cleaner. The flex shaft is about 5' long with a 3/8" chuck, about $25 on Amazon, and has tons of uses. When you need a rotary tool for a job that's to big for a Dremel, and a pneumatic die grinder is to fast, here's the perfect solution. Use caution with this shaft, light pressure is the key or the drill torque will twist the spring inside and destroy the shaft, I attach it to my weakest drill to help preserve it. Also, don't kink it, as the outter casing will get damaged. Poop happens, this is my 3rd one over 20ish years.



          Now, here's the whole setup. Kwick Case Trimmer in the drill press, brass separated and within easy reach, chamfer and deburr at the ready, and pocket cleaning if desired/needed. Since I already had the drills and drill press, plus the flex shaft and drill clamp, the only real extra cost was a 2nd clamp and a couple extra PH power adapters, and a 2nd Forster chamfer/deburr tool. Everything here has other uses, so that's value added. Much better IMHO to getting a dedicated (and expensive) brass prep center, much more convenient then doing them by hand on lathe style trimmer, and I don't lose any precious bench space.



          Now, obviously there will be tons of high torque, pointy/sharp spinning things sending brass chips flying all over. No loose clothing, careful movements, and eye protection are a must. Check your ergonomics and reaches prior to turning anything on to ensure you don't bleed!
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          • #6
            WDE91
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 3513

            I would love to see a video of this setup at operational speed
            very creative
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            • #7
              freonr22
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              • Dec 2008
              • 12945

              Do tell about the possum hollow and slow and high speed operation... Btw, in the past the only YouTube video I have seen is the one in the drill and the 5 gallon bucket. I have not seen one done in a drill press. Hint hint...
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              • #8
                Fyathyrio
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2009
                • 1082

                Yeah, I'll get a vid up soon, I have to size some brass 1st.
                "Everything I ever learned about leadership, I learned from a Chief Petty Officer." - John McCain
                "Use your hammer, not your mouth, jackass!" - Mike Ditka
                There has never been a shortage of people eager to draw up blueprints for running other people's lives. - Thomas Sowell
                Originally posted by James Earl Jones
                The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose.

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                • #9
                  bumpo628
                  Senior Member
                  • Nov 2009
                  • 1142

                  You must work in manufacturing with that type of mentality.

                  Very nice setup. It looks like you're ready for some production there.
                  I can't wait to see a video too.
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                  • #10
                    grant22
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2011
                    • 625

                    Nicely done! I especially like the bracket you fabbed with the bins.
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                    • #11
                      Fyathyrio
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2009
                      • 1082

                      OK, I sized, deprimed, and cleaned up 50 cases last night. This is WWB once fired through my AR-10 style rifle, and if I understand correctly, cases tend to stretch the most after the 1st firing. This means that I had the most metal to remove compared to later loadings. Average length of the batch after sizing was 2.023". Prep was done on LnL with RCBS lube die and Dillon size die w/decap stem removed.

                      Here's a picture of the brass after each step. From left to right is sized, trimmed, chamfered, and deburred. Works nice!



                      Drill press w/PH trimmer is running at 500 RPM, power drills are running about 100 RPM. I was averaging about four pieces per minute (about 250/hr), but I was also working pretty methodically. This is my first time prepping .308 as well as my first time using this process, so I suspect a throughput rate could easily reach 400 or more per hour. The PH trimmer put very little torque on the brass, so I suspect that the speed could be increased which would also decrease trim time.



                      Some thoughts...the brass chips didn't fly very far, but my hand was kind of sweaty so many stuck. I'll use a nitrile glove next time to prevent that. Many of the chips remained in the case, so the upside down chamfer/deburr steps ensure those all fall out. I read a few comments about trimmer chatter, but I didn't experience any issues with this small sample. It's very easy to feel when the trimmer has finished. It's not as fast as my Dillon Rapid Trim on my press, but for a small batch of 100 or so, this will beat that in setup time and ease IMHO. Oh, as far as accuracy, the trimmed brass all measured 2.011"-2.013". Nice! I'll just need to make a minor adjusment to get it to min trim length of 2.005 and never have to mess with it again.
                      Last edited by Fyathyrio; 10-02-2011, 3:05 PM.
                      "Everything I ever learned about leadership, I learned from a Chief Petty Officer." - John McCain
                      "Use your hammer, not your mouth, jackass!" - Mike Ditka
                      There has never been a shortage of people eager to draw up blueprints for running other people's lives. - Thomas Sowell
                      Originally posted by James Earl Jones
                      The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose.

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                      • #12
                        Fyathyrio
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 1082

                        OK, dunno if I suck at the video linking or what, but here's the direct link to the vid.

                        "Everything I ever learned about leadership, I learned from a Chief Petty Officer." - John McCain
                        "Use your hammer, not your mouth, jackass!" - Mike Ditka
                        There has never been a shortage of people eager to draw up blueprints for running other people's lives. - Thomas Sowell
                        Originally posted by James Earl Jones
                        The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose.

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                        • #13
                          Desert_Rat
                          Senior Member
                          • May 2007
                          • 2289

                          Looking good. Thanks for taking the time to make the video.


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                          • #14
                            Whiterabbit
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Oct 2010
                            • 7587

                            I wanna see the vid with you using your right hand to trim then the left hand to deburr in high production mode.

                            I really like your work.

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                            • #15
                              Fyathyrio
                              Senior Member
                              • Nov 2009
                              • 1082

                              Don't think I'll reach that point, the deburr bit looks hungry!

                              Desert Rat, thanks for fixing the vid for me!
                              "Everything I ever learned about leadership, I learned from a Chief Petty Officer." - John McCain
                              "Use your hammer, not your mouth, jackass!" - Mike Ditka
                              There has never been a shortage of people eager to draw up blueprints for running other people's lives. - Thomas Sowell
                              Originally posted by James Earl Jones
                              The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose.

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