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  • #16
    Briancnelson
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    CGN Contributor
    • May 2011
    • 802

    Originally posted by Fishslayer
    I think most if not all manufacturers advise against using reloads.
    That's true. They all do that for legal arsecovering purposes.

    However in the case of the .40 Glocks of the first couple generations, Glock issued a specific advisory regarding them. Lee's reloading manual mentions not to as well.
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    • #17
      Fishslayer
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      • Jan 2010
      • 13035

      Originally posted by Briancnelson
      That's true. They all do that for legal arsecovering purposes.

      However in the case of the .40 Glocks of the first couple generations, Glock issued a specific advisory regarding them. Lee's reloading manual mentions not to as well.
      I still don't own a .40 of any make & don't really plan to. Never say never, tho.

      When I was choosing my first handgun I knew it would be .45ACP. Besides likeing the cartridge I also knew it was probably the most n00b friendly round for reloading.
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      I hope Ruger pays the extortion fees for the SR1911. I mean the gun is just as good if not better than a Les Baer.
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      A Colt collector shooting Rugers is like Hugh Grant cheating on Elizabeth Hurley with a hooker.

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      • #18
        HighLander51
        Banned
        • Feb 2010
        • 5144

        Over pressure. When the actual pressure exceeds the allowable chamber pressure, kaboom. It doesn't matter if it's double charged, or bullet setback, the result is a complete rupture.

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        • #19
          Mstnpete
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2006
          • 4039

          Double charged reloads causes it!!!!
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          • #20
            rero360
            Veteran Member
            • Dec 2009
            • 3926

            What causes the most kabooms?

            Glocks















            seriously though, I'd say a toss up between wrong powder, not noticing a squib then shooting again, or double charges, or any combination of the above.

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            • #21
              Chief-7700
              Veteran Member
              • May 2008
              • 3382

              Let boil this thread down to the basics:
              1. Reloads (lack of knowledge or attention to the process)
              2. Manufacturing defects (early Glocks with unsupported chambers)

              Please feel free to add to the list.
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              • #22
                epcii
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                • Feb 2011
                • 637

                Don't forget high pressures due to short OAL's.
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                • #23
                  Chief-7700
                  Veteran Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 3382

                  Originally posted by epcii
                  Don't forget high pressures due to short OAL's.
                  That would fall under number 1, along with re-cambering the same round numerous times resulting in a short COL/OAL round increasing the pressure.

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                  • #24
                    al8550
                    Senior Member
                    • Aug 2010
                    • 934

                    Originally posted by bill_k_lopez
                    Telling my wife I just spent $1800.00 on a HK-USC. That was a really big kaboom.
                    I bet!!!
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                    • #25
                      bubbapug1
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 7958

                      pulling the trigger
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                      • #26
                        John Browning
                        Calguns Addict
                        • May 2006
                        • 8089

                        Originally posted by HighLander51
                        Over pressure. When the actual pressure exceeds the allowable chamber pressure, kaboom. It doesn't matter if it's double charged, or bullet setback, the result is a complete rupture.
                        Would a bullet setback really cause a catastrophic failure? Most proof rounds are at such a high pressure that I just can't imagine setback can raise the pressure up high enough.

                        I can believe double and triple charges, and using the wrong powder could easily destroy a gun, but some of these small errors we all watch out for have me wondering what they would really cause. Not that I want to find out in the real world, this is purely interwebz only...
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                        Originally posted by KWalkerM
                        eh why bring logic into this, that makes too much sense... besides when you have bested a fool, you have accomplished nothing and he is a fool.

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                        • #27
                          CWM4A1
                          Senior Member
                          • Feb 2006
                          • 1135

                          Lack of proper bullet crime could cause bullet setback, pressure spiked and you got kaboom. Kaboom can be that, or double load, or under/squib load follow by another standard load, obstructions in barrel... all lead to excessive pressure = kaboom.

                          Pay attention when you reload and have a bullet pulled handy. When in doubt, disassemble the bullet beats blow up you gun, however expensive or inexpensive it may be.
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                          • #28
                            five.five-six
                            CGN Contributor
                            • May 2006
                            • 34841

                            Originally posted by rero360
                            What causes the most kabooms?

                            Glocks
                            ^^^that^^^

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                            • #29
                              CWM4A1
                              Senior Member
                              • Feb 2006
                              • 1135

                              Originally posted by scobun
                              Would a bullet setback really cause a catastrophic failure? Most proof rounds are at such a high pressure that I just can't imagine setback can raise the pressure up high enough.

                              I can believe double and triple charges, and using the wrong powder could easily destroy a gun, but some of these small errors we all watch out for have me wondering what they would really cause. Not that I want to find out in the real world, this is purely interwebz only...
                              Being there, done that, lucky the gun held up so other than a broken trigger, nothing else is broken. Then again it was a BHP, not a polymer frame like glock. That little kaboom did leave a small chunk of copper embedded in my face for a few years...
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                              • #30
                                John Browning
                                Calguns Addict
                                • May 2006
                                • 8089

                                Originally posted by CWM4A1
                                Being there, done that, lucky the gun held up so other than a broken trigger, nothing else is broken. Then again it was a BHP, not a polymer frame like glock. That little kaboom did leave a small chunk of copper embedded in my face for a few years...
                                Wow, good to know and glad you still can count to 10 with just your hands.
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                                Originally posted by KWalkerM
                                eh why bring logic into this, that makes too much sense... besides when you have bested a fool, you have accomplished nothing and he is a fool.

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