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  • John Browning
    Calguns Addict
    • May 2006
    • 8089

    What causes most kabooms?

    What do you think causes the most spontaneous disassembly problems? I'd have to venture that using the wrong powder for that weight charge (i.e. putting in Bullseye when you want RL15) or a double charge of powder in a pistol cartridge are the two worst offenders.
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    eh why bring logic into this, that makes too much sense... besides when you have bested a fool, you have accomplished nothing and he is a fool.
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    • Feb 2011
    • 114

    kaboom

    big mistake to forget a powder load ,primer will send bullet into barrel where it will stay until the next fired round blows the gun up and kaboom

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    • #3
      bill_k_lopez
      Banned
      • May 2011
      • 2836

      Telling my wife I just spent $1800.00 on a HK-USC. That was a really big kaboom.

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      • #4
        bcrich
        Senior Member
        • May 2008
        • 1158

        HUMAN ERROR, somebody f***in up at some point not paying attention!

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          Briancnelson
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          • May 2011
          • 802

          The biggest causes are double loads, followed by underloads that leave a bullet in the barrel, statistically (I looked it up). Certain calibers have particular issues of their own. For example, in .40 S&W, the unsupported barrel and tendency to fire slightly out of battery of Glocks is a somewhat frequent cause of kabooms, since the .40 is a high pressure load. This is why they don't recommend you reload for Glocks .40's.
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            ElvenSoul
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            • Apr 2008
            • 17431

            ID10T is the most common error.
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            • #7
              five.five-six
              CGN Contributor
              • May 2006
              • 34841

              barrel obstructions

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              • #8
                Chief-7700
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                • May 2008
                • 3382

                Lack of attention to details. In other words Reloader error!

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                  XDRoX
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                  • Mar 2009
                  • 4420

                  Originally posted by Briancnelson
                  This is why they don't recommend you reload for Glocks .40's.
                  Who doesn't recommend reloading for Glock 40's?



                  The most common cause of kabooms is fast powders and lack of attention.
                  I'd bet that most kabooms are with TG than any other powder. Uber fast and low volume. Very easy to double load or get pressure spikes at short OAL's. Mix heavier bullets into the equation and you have yourself a disaster waiting to happen.

                  The only reason you hear about more Glock kabooms than others is because more people have glocks.
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                    JTROKS
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                    • Nov 2007
                    • 13093

                    I now know a couple of peeps that shoot USPSA that blew their $2K+ raceguns by double charging. To what I know of them and listing what they both have in common. 40S&W, fast burning powder, 2011 type custom handguns and last but not the least - Dillon 550.
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                    • #11
                      knucklehead0202
                      Veteran Member
                      • Aug 2008
                      • 4086

                      yes, the combination of progressive presses and unattentive reloaders is generally to blame here. if you're not very well-versed in reloading, or wear your *** for a hat, don't get a progressive.

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                        epcii
                        Senior Member
                        • Feb 2011
                        • 637

                        Fast powders in combination with inaccurate scales, poor metering, etc.
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                          Briancnelson
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                          • May 2011
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                          Originally posted by XDRoX
                          Who doesn't recommend reloading for Glock 40's?

                          The only reason you hear about more Glock kabooms than others is because more people have glocks.
                          Well, Glock for one, doesn't recommend it, and at least one prominent reloading die manufacturer I'm aware of doesn't recommend reloading for Glock in .40 caliber because of the unsupported barrel. I've had the same advice from two reloaders. The problem is compounded if the Glock fires slightly out of battery, which they occassionally do. It's not a problem with new brass, because you don't hear about a ton of problems with that. But reloaded brass has been stressed and stretched a bit by the process of sizing, which can magnify any problems arising from the other issues. .40 is a high pressure round. I am told some of the later gen Glocks have a fully supported barrel, in which case there shouldn't be an issue.

                          When I reload .40 brass, I have been able to successfully identify in many cases those shot from a Glock originally, as they have a peculiar bulge toward the rear of the case. They resize fine, in my experience however.

                          It's a specific problem with specific Glocks, not a general slam on them. You can stop getting your knickers in a twist now.
                          Last edited by Briancnelson; 07-25-2011, 9:02 AM.
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                          • #14
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                            • Oct 2010
                            • 3491

                            Originally posted by knucklehead0202
                            yes, the combination of progressive presses and unattentive reloaders is generally to blame here. if you're not very well-versed in reloading, or wear your *** for a hat, don't get a progressive.
                            I dont think its due to progressives, its just lack of attention. My friend had two squibs out of 50 rounds and he loads on a single stage.

                            Never shooting his loads, lol.
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                            • #15
                              Fishslayer
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                              Originally posted by XDRoX
                              Who doesn't recommend reloading for Glock 40's?
                              I think most if not all manufacturers advise against using reloads.

                              Glock doesn't want you using lead bullets of any sort.

                              Seems like a lot of KB happen with Titegroup. Maybe cause it's a popular powder? Maybe because it's touchy?

                              I would agree that most KB are generally reloader error/pushing the maximum a bit far... there are exceptions of course.
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