LnL & 550b Side by side..

[EL_NinO619]

Press play at the same time and enjoy.. Notice how the LnL is at a casual pace and how little effort is being exerted. And notice how the Dillon does have better ERGO accessories if you did not have to Manuel index. All in all both are great machines, its up to you to decide..

[Gio]

I like the Dillon setup better. I run a 650 that is currently on manula index mode I need to call Dillon tomorrow so I can get my replacement parts ordered.

[Waldog]

I like the LNL setup better. And, I have loaded on both.

As the saying goes; "To each his own." or "Beauty is in the eye of the beholder."

[Cowboy T]

This reminds me of the guy who asks himself every day, "Hmm...do I drive the Mercedes S500 today or the BMW 750iL?"

Haven't yet tried an LnL AP, but it looks like a very good machine. I have used a 550B, and it too is a very solid machine. If you've got the coin, you really can't go wrong with either one.

[StaTiK]

Justin's routine seems smoother than most I've seen on YT. I've always thought that it would be more efficient to grab a handful of projectiles and then one case at a time, eliminating a lot of the extra reaching. I also like how some people have mounted (or made a pedestal for) a bullet bin on the front of the frame which puts them right next to station #4 for seating.

I think I'm just going to have to buy one and make my own videos.

-StaTiK-

[StaTiK]

OK I know speed isn't everything, but do you know what his time to load 100 rounds was? The LNL video you posted wasn't continuous and I'm assuming it isn't the 5:40 video length.

-StaTiK-

[StaTiK]

Having nothing to do in the last 30 minutes I did some math for you Keep in mind that this is extrapolation and therefore may not be accurate for a sustained rate (ie just because I can do 10 push-ups in 10 seconds doesn't mean I can do 60 in one minute). That said, both videos show what I consider to be very sustainable rates.

For the LNL the first part of the video seemed to be the longest uninterrupted run. 17 rounds in 1:41... .168 rounds per second, 10.100 rounds per minute, 605.941 rounds per hour.

This could also be described as 1 round every 5.941 seconds, or 100 rounds in 9:54.

Your 550 does 100 rounds in 9 minutes (there is some dead time at the beginning & end) so that's .185 rounds per second, 11.111 rounds per minute, 666.667 rounds per hour, even including one crushed case.

This could also be described as 1 round every 5.400 seconds.

The 550 calculation is more accurate because it is averaged over 9 minutes (not 1:41) and starts/ends with an empty shell plate.

Both numbers are skewed, in my opinion, because they are not "sustained" when factoring in the loading of primers and powder.

Thank you very much for posting these. I often hear that the 550 is faster because of the two-handed operation, and while this appears to be true it isn't remarkably so. I would also caveat that by saying the LNL seems like it could be made more efficient than the example shown by using a bullet tray comparable to the 550.

-StaTiK-

PS feel free to correct my math. You may notice that the numbers are not exact, and that is because I kept the calculator default (12+ decimal places) for calculations but rounded to the nearest thousandth for each posted rate.

[XDRoX]

StaTik, can you post this stuff at the other forum? These guys don't seem to care about this stuff too much. Don't know if you know this but Justin started another thread.

http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1338695

[smird]

I've got both, I like the LNL slightly better. Both are great machines though.

[StaTiK]

StaTik, can you post this stuff at the other forum? These guys don't seem to care about this stuff too much. Don't know if you know this but Justin started another thread.
http://glocktalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1338695

Done.

[Bongos]

I own the 550B and XL650, played with a LNL. For me, the 550B meets my needs, but to compare the 650 vs the LNL, I like the compactness of the shellplate on the 650 was well as the priming system and the powder check option. From engineering point, the 650 is slightly better designed, what won it for me in the end is the "time" it takes to change caliber specifilly going from small primer to large primer in the 650, it takes at lease 30-45 min. but that said, if you designate the 650 to just calibers like (small rpimer) 223, 9mm, 38/357, and 40s&w.. you will be fine..or (large Primer) 45ACP, 44SPL/Mag, 460S&W.. ok also.. as far as larger caliber like the 243, 308 these do not count as most will prime the brass during the brass prep stage. It is nice to crank out 800 rounds an hour though..

[beauregard]

This is the first time I have ever seen reloading being done and I gotta say the red one looks like it does a better job at being easy and quick.

[LGB Loader]

LGB

[Bongos]

This is the first time I have ever seen reloading being done and I gotta say the red one looks like it does a better job at being easy and quick.

Sure, you should check out the XL650 which the autoindexig like the red one

[Chief-7700]

I own the 550B and XL650, played with a LNL. For me, the 550B meets my needs, but to compare the 650 vs the LNL, I like the compactness of the shellplate on the 650 was well as the priming system and the powder check option. From engineering point, the 650 is slightly better designed, what won it for me in the end is the "time" it takes to change caliber specifilly going from small primer to large primer in the 650, it takes at lease 30-45 min. but that said, if you designate the 650 to just calibers like (small rpimer) 223, 9mm, 38/357, and 40s&w.. you will be fine..or (large Primer) 45ACP, 44SPL/Mag, 460S&W.. ok also.. as far as larger caliber like the 243, 308 these do not count as most will prime the brass during the brass prep stage. It is nice to crank out 800 rounds an hour though..

Takes me about 10 minutes to change out the priming system on my XL-650.