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  • #16
    JC Smith
    CGN/CGSSA Contributor
    CGN Contributor
    • May 2006
    • 306

    I found an interesting website a few weeks ago. It had data on penetration and terminal performance of a variety of slugs. Now I can't find it. Anyone know what site that's on? An interesting finding was that some of the reduced recoil (lower velocity) slugs tended to overpenetrate.
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    • #17
      racer
      Junior Member
      • Nov 2006
      • 84

      here's some interesting pictures
      Taken from [dead link] Before you begin to read this realize that all of these shots were taken from a known distance and angle into bare Ordinance Gelatin in a controlled environment. This does not take into consideration the effects clothing, weather, range, temperature, cover, or body...

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      • #18
        Experimentalist
        Banned in Amsterdam
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • May 2006
        • 1171

        +1

        Originally posted by ocabj
        I have a couple sleeves of the Federal 'Tactical' low recoil slugs. They're tolerable out of my 18.5" 870. Properly pocket the stock and you'll be fine.
        This is consistent with my own experience. I've taken both two and four day tactical shotgun courses with this brand of slug, and my shoulder was perfectly fine. Just don't forget proper shooting technique.
        "An unarmed man can only flee from evil. And evil is not overcome by fleeing from it" - Col. Jeff Cooper

        "Shot placement trumps all."

        Originally posted by CSACANNONEER
        Who uses 9mm for SD? Anything less than a 50BMG is stupid to use. Personally, I prefer canister rounds out of a 10lb Parrott rifle for SD.

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        • #19
          mcubed4130
          Vendor/Retailer
          • Mar 2007
          • 1239

          I've taken tactical classes, and shot hundreds of 2 3/4" or 3" magnum - 12 gauge - rifled 1oz or 600gr slugs in a day. No bruises no nothing... but then, I modified appropriately.

          As for what slug to buy... Brenneke and Fiocchi are my favorites... i.e. good bang for the buck ratios and cleaner, Wolf is fine too, but the plastic they use tends to build up in the chamber faster, make sure you get something that will melt the plastic goo that will build up until you start having Failure-to-Eject problems... then you KNOW you need to clean the chamber. (Tetra Gun - Copper Solvent - which melts plastic as well - was my savior - after my local gunsmith laughed at my goo'd gun).

          As for as accuracy with slugs, I've personally, I've not found much difference between brands of slugs (Winchester, Remington, Federal, Brenneke, Fiocchi, Wolf, etc...), any of them are nearly identical in my Mossberg 500. However, buckshot has MAJOR differences - patterning of each brand required.


          Mossberg 500, 18.5" cylinder bore; Knoxx SpecOps w/Limbsaver pad.



          -M3
          "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." -George Santayana
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          • #20
            Prc329
            Calguns Addict
            • Oct 2006
            • 5603

            Originally posted by mcubed4130
            Knoxx SpecOps w/Limbsaver pad.



            -M3
            That explains a lot.
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            • #21
              MedSpec65
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2007
              • 634

              Originally posted by Prc329
              That explains a lot.
              www.knoxx.com/products/CompStock.php
              "We're surrounded. That simplifies our problem. We can now fire in any direction and strike the enemy." ....Colonel Lewis Burwell "Chesty" Puller, Commanding the 1st Marine Regiment at The Battle of The Chosin Reservoir, Korea 1950

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              • #22
                redneckshootist
                In Memoriam
                • Mar 2006
                • 1928

                shootin slugs aint that bad, my favorite shotgun for slugs is my SXS 12 20in cylinder bores.
                07 FFL Woodland, CA
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                you can also email me direct at MValentine@norsearmory.net

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                • #23
                  M. Sage
                  Moderator Emeritus
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • Jul 2006
                  • 19759

                  Originally posted by JC Smith
                  I found an interesting website a few weeks ago. It had data on penetration and terminal performance of a variety of slugs. Now I can't find it. Anyone know what site that's on? An interesting finding was that some of the reduced recoil (lower velocity) slugs tended to overpenetrate.


                  Nothing cleans house like an ounce of lead at 800 fps.
                  Originally posted by Deadbolt
                  "We're here to take your land for your safety"

                  "My Safety?" *click* "There, that was my safety"
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                  • #24
                    Bolt2Bounce
                    Member
                    • Jan 2006
                    • 228

                    I've shot hundreds and hundreds of 12 ga slugs. I cast and load my own slugs using a lyman mold. I cast 1oz Foster type slugs out of wheel weights and have shot them out of all chokes including full choke rem 1100's. No problems at all. The smooth barrel rifled slugs are very accurate. out to 100-150 yards.. Sabot slugs are designed to be shot in rifles shot gun barrels only... yeah they will go bang out of a smooth bore but they will not fly straight & true with out some spin. I get my shotgun loading supplies from ballistic products mostly. My 2 3/4 1 ounce load using 33 gr of 800X is going about 1500 fps... recoil is about the same as a 3" mag duck load... but what really kicks is the 2 oz turkey loads. I make.... B2B

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                    • #25
                      JC Smith
                      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                      CGN Contributor
                      • May 2006
                      • 306

                      Originally posted by M. Sage
                      http://www.tacticalshotgun.ca/ballistics_shotgun.html

                      Nothing cleans house like an ounce of lead at 800 fps.
                      That's it, thanks. Interesting results on there but I kinda feel sorry for that poor cow.
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                      • #26
                        dw1784
                        Senior Member
                        • May 2006
                        • 705

                        Originally posted by wildcard
                        You can physically shoot sabot slugs through a smoothbore too.. but the groupings really open up. Stick to rifled slugs with a smoothbore.
                        yup, it'll work too. The sabot needs rifling to stabilze but inside of 50yds it'll still print within human size target. I shot a grp of Brenneke's and shot 1 round of sabot after. POI was actually higher(by about 4") than the Brenneke's.

                        an alternate solution is to use sabot that works in both smoothbore and rifled barrels, like the Sauvestre.

                        For the wuss calling he-man's out there, try shooting prone, butt up on your clavicle and no cheating with the Knoxx pogo stock either!

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                        • #27
                          Glock22Fan
                          Calguns Addict
                          • May 2006
                          • 5752

                          Originally posted by dw1784

                          For the wuss calling he-man's out there, try shooting prone, butt up on your clavicle.
                          Tried that, couldn't get my butt anywhere near my clavicle.
                          John -- bitter gun owner.

                          All opinions expressed here are my own unless I say otherwise.
                          I am not a lawyer and this is not legal advice.

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                          • #28
                            fairfaxjim
                            Senior Member
                            • Apr 2006
                            • 2146

                            Originally posted by ocabj
                            I have a couple sleeves of the Federal 'Tactical' low recoil slugs. They're tolerable out of my 18.5" 870. Properly pocket the stock and you'll be fine. The Remington Low Recoil LE slugs are good, too. I tried some Winchester Super X and those were heavy recoiling slugs.
                            +1 on the Federal 'Tactical' slugs. You can get them at the gunshow pretty reasonable. For some stupid reason they are stamped LEO only???
                            "As soon as we burn 'em," Chinn said, "more come in."
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                            • #29
                              M. Sage
                              Moderator Emeritus
                              CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                              • Jul 2006
                              • 19759

                              Originally posted by JC Smith
                              That's it, thanks. Interesting results on there but I kinda feel sorry for that poor cow.
                              Yeah, that was a weird thing. I put a 2 3/4" 20 ga 3/4 oz Foster through a buck's ribcage, no problem. It even exited. That cow must have had some really thick ribs, or they might have hit it at an odd angle.
                              Originally posted by Deadbolt
                              "We're here to take your land for your safety"

                              "My Safety?" *click* "There, that was my safety"
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                              • #30
                                ETD1010
                                Senior Member
                                • Apr 2006
                                • 1298

                                Originally posted by redneckshootist
                                shootin slugs aint that bad, my favorite shotgun for slugs is my SXS 12 20in cylinder bores.
                                my wife has one of these.. I shot two 3" slugs out of it at once...... fun.. but it knocked me back a ways....

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