Reloading for the 7.62 Tokarev

[SanPedroShooter]

Does anyone reload for 7.62 tokarev? I have been doing some reading, and it seems pretty straight forward. I am thinking about getting a Cz-52. How about components? I see that most die makers make a 7.62 tok, if only in steel. Starline makes brass, the lyman manual uses 93g hornady FMJ's. I cant seem to find any.
What is the nominal barrel diameter, .310? For cast, something i dont do, yet, lyman uses .311
Thanks for the input, and would you rate this caliber as easy or hard for someone who just started reloading for bottlenecked rifle rounds. I see that the 7.62t also has a bottleneck and headspaces accordingly

[nick]

You can get the brass from the PRVI ammo. SOG sells it at $11-12/box of 50, or so.

[SanPedroShooter]

Sweet! thank you. I cant seem to find it on the sog site. Maybe i am looking at the wrong sog... I did find it at midway and few other places. The bullets are what i am after, the lyman manual lists bullets that hornady doesnt carry anymore, i think. Their manual (hornady) lists one HP-XTP at 90 grains

[nick]

I wonder if the .30 carbine bullets might work. They're heavier at 110gr though.

Sorry, it's not PRVI, it's Wolf Gold at SOG. Same thing.

http://www.southernohiogun.com/ammunition-1/wolf-7-62x25-ammo-50rd-box-brass-boxer.html

[bumpo628]

Surplus ammo for the tokarev is really cheap. You can get a spam can of 1260 rounds for about $100 delivered from J&G Sales. That's about 8 cents per round. I don't think you can reload for that price. It's corrosive, but that's no problem if you clean after each session.

I just bought two more cans because you reminded me. Thanks!

http://www.jgsales.com/product_info.php/ammo-for-handguns/7-62x25-30-tokarev/p/7-62x25-polish-fmj-1260rd-in-can/cPath/25_28/products_id/3145

[iareConfusE]

Surplus ammo for the tokarev is really cheap. You can get a spam can of 1260 rounds for about $100 delivered from J&G Sales. That's about 8 cents per round. I don't think you can reload for that price. It's corrosive, but that's no problem if you clean after each session.

I just bought two more cans because you reminded me. Thanks!

http://www.jgsales.com/product_info....oducts_id/3145

Yep. I was looking into reloading 7.62x25, but then I remembered that the prices for surplus ammo was WAY cheaper than if I reloaded my own rounds, so I decided against it. The Tokarev is incredibly easy to clean, so the ammo being corrosive isn't a problem. The only advantage I can see to reloading in this caliber is to get around AB962.

[SanPedroShooter]

I have seen the surplus, but i want to reload for several reasons, control of supply, in the long run, is as important as cost to me. But yeah, i will probably buy a couple cases too..

[SanPedroShooter]

I wonder if the .30 carbine bullets might work. They're heavier at 110gr though.

Sorry, it's not PRVI, it's Wolf Gold at SOG. Same thing.

http://www.southernohiogun.com/ammun...ass-boxer.html

I thought about 30 carbine bullets too, but there too heavy. At first glance anyway. I need to do more research. As far as the loaded ammo goes, s&b also makes a brass/boxer too. I think would rather buy the surplus cans if i was going with factory loaded.
I would also like to point out what sweet looking gun the Cz-52 is. It reminds me of a walther ppk.

[bumpo628]

Another nice gun in the caliber is the TT-33

[zfields]

you can also convert the tt-33 into 9mm with a under 100$ barrel.

[bumpo628]

you can also convert the tt-33 into 9mm with a under 100$ barrel.

Do you have a link for that?

[JAGGUY]

I don't reload much Tok ammo since the surplus is so cheap but what I have I used cut down .223 brass. Works fine and .223 brass is all over the place for free. Easy to resize using standard sizer die.

[tujungatoes]

The 90grn hornady would would be the way to go. they have data for it in their manual. I see Hornady and speer both make a short jacketed 100grn plinker bullet for .30 carbine also. They ought to work, but you'd be in (somewhat)uncharted territory for the powder charge with the heavier bullet. I'd do it, but that's me. YMMV

[Brasspolisher]

I've loaded a few with the Lee die set, using S&B brass salvaged from fired rounds, Sierra 85 grn .308 bullets labeled "for handguns only" (Natchez has them at the moment), and Accurate #2 powder.

The starting load using these components is too weak to cycle the action on a stock CZ52. Once you get into proper functioning territory, one of the 52's "character traits" comes into play: it slings brass across entire ZIP codes. Anyone located to the right at the range will not think of you as a good neighbor. (Once at an outdoor range in AZ, I had to apologize for bouncing a case off the hood of a guy's truck, parked several spaces over and about 20' behind where we were shooting.)

With the expense of the bullets, the extra steps required to load bottlenecked cases using steel dies, and a recovery rate of the precious boxer-primed brass running down around one in five, I kind of checked the "been there, done that" box and went back to shooting cheap, abundant, and disposable surplus, as others have mentioned.

The CZ52 is a really fun piece, and definitely worth tracking down, especially at the price of the pistol and (surplus) ammo. Just try to choose the rightmost lane.


P.S. Thanks for the .223 tip, JAGGUY!

[VegasND]

Do you have a link for that?

I bought one of these a couple of weeks ago:

http://www.gunpartscorp.com/catalog/Detail.aspx?pid=595100A&catid=8694

Under $50 delivered. It doesn't use the 7.62 barrel bushing and they're out of stock on the 9mm bushing. I need to get a 7.62 bushing and open it up.

Anybody have one they want to give up cheap?

As soon as I can get the bushing I'm going to try it in my Polish and my Yugo.