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  • #46
    SixPointEight
    Veteran Member
    • May 2009
    • 3788

    No, just buy a set of dial calipers, and copy the spec in your reloading manual

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    • #47
      Fiveohmike
      Senior Member
      • Dec 2009
      • 1047

      Well here is the range reports. I apologize ahead of time for the lenght and ammount of pics.



      Winchester Brass, CCI primers, SMK 175g, 40.5g Varget powder:



      Winchester Brass, CCI primers, SMK 175g, 42.5g Varget powder -ON THE RIGHT

      Winchester Brass, CCI primers, SMK 175g, 43.0g Varget powder -ON THE LEFT



      Winchester Brass, CCI primers, SMK 175g, 43.5g Varget powder with 2 flyers that were my fault



      Winchester Brass, CCI primers, SMK 175g, 44.0g Varget powder




      Things I learned today:

      1. I did the reloads right! They all went bang with ZERO malfunctions!!!

      2. I need a brass catcher, as concrete jacks the brass up

      3. I am a TERRIBLE shot

      4. I need to work loads from 43.0 to 44.0g in .1 increments to find my load


      Im so pumped I didnt lose a hand or damage the rifle!!!

      Mike
      Last edited by Fiveohmike; 12-12-2010, 1:12 PM.
      -- I love the mythological significance given to Dum Dum Bullets. As if they're little tactical nukes, stacked up in "Assault Clips" ready to be "sprayfired" "from the hip" by pistol grip equipped "bullet hoses" instead of early variations of the softpoint bullets people have been using to take game with (and use for self-defense) for the last century.

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      • #48
        SanPedroShooter
        Calguns Addict
        • Jan 2010
        • 9732

        Awesome! What was the range distance?

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        • #49
          Fiveohmike
          Senior Member
          • Dec 2009
          • 1047

          Originally posted by brent*
          Awesome! What was the range distance?
          100yds at Chabot
          -- I love the mythological significance given to Dum Dum Bullets. As if they're little tactical nukes, stacked up in "Assault Clips" ready to be "sprayfired" "from the hip" by pistol grip equipped "bullet hoses" instead of early variations of the softpoint bullets people have been using to take game with (and use for self-defense) for the last century.

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          • #50
            Ahhnother8
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2007
            • 1454

            Originally posted by Fiveohmike
            Things I learned today:

            4. I need to work loads from 43.0 to 44.0g in .1 increments to find my load

            Mike
            You are getting vertical stringing in that velocity range. Keep going up and get away from that. You are looking for nice round groups. One tenth grain increments are a total waste of time, barrel life, powder, and bullets. Go to at least one quarter grain increments and halves are not all bad.

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            • #51
              Fiveohmike
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2009
              • 1047

              Originally posted by Ahhnother8
              You are getting vertical stringing in that velocity range. Keep going up and get away from that. You are looking for nice round groups. One tenth grain increments are a total waste of time, barrel life, powder, and bullets. Go to at least one quarter grain increments and halves are not all bad.
              So to try and tighten the groups up, i should make some loads at 44.5 and 45.0 and test them out?
              -- I love the mythological significance given to Dum Dum Bullets. As if they're little tactical nukes, stacked up in "Assault Clips" ready to be "sprayfired" "from the hip" by pistol grip equipped "bullet hoses" instead of early variations of the softpoint bullets people have been using to take game with (and use for self-defense) for the last century.

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              • #52
                SixPointEight
                Veteran Member
                • May 2009
                • 3788

                Originally posted by Fiveohmike
                So to try and tighten the groups up, i should make some loads at 44.5 and 45.0 and test them out?
                This depends on what your primers look like at 43.5 and 44.0gr.

                Try to use a rest, I don't want to sound mean, but looks like there's a good amount of shooter in those groups, so the data will be skewed.

                I did the same thing working up a load for my ar the first time.

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                • #53
                  Martan
                  Member
                  • Jun 2010
                  • 174

                  I'm new to reloading as well , but I think JT1989 is right, this looks to me like a shooter problem, some of these groups look like my first groups with 147gr. 308 ammo I bought at gun show.
                  What improved my groups was the rear bag and new trigger. I'll be going to a range with my rifle after new HS stock upgrade and my first reloads as well, I'll post it when I have my targets. I can't wait to see my first reloads punching holes...

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                  • #54
                    Fiveohmike
                    Senior Member
                    • Dec 2009
                    • 1047

                    Originally posted by JT1989
                    This depends on what your primers look like at 43.5 and 44.0gr.

                    Try to use a rest, I don't want to sound mean, but looks like there's a good amount of shooter in those groups, so the data will be skewed.

                    I did the same thing working up a load for my ar the first time.
                    No offense taken lol. If you look at one of my points about thigns I learned from today was that I am a terrible shot lol. I need to get a rest for the buttstock, to stabalize the gun while I work on my technique.
                    -- I love the mythological significance given to Dum Dum Bullets. As if they're little tactical nukes, stacked up in "Assault Clips" ready to be "sprayfired" "from the hip" by pistol grip equipped "bullet hoses" instead of early variations of the softpoint bullets people have been using to take game with (and use for self-defense) for the last century.

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                    • #55
                      Gio
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 10251

                      Originally posted by Fiveohmike
                      No offense taken lol. If you look at one of my points about thigns I learned from today was that I am a terrible shot lol. I need to get a rest for the buttstock, to stabalize the gun while I work on my technique.
                      You can use a sand bag or two on the buttstock to help stabilize the rear.
                      ΜΟΛΩΝ ΛΑΒΕ

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                      • #56
                        SixPointEight
                        Veteran Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 3788

                        If you don't feel like buying a rest or sandbag just yet, a rolled up sweatshirt will work fine in a pinch.

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                        • #57
                          killshot44
                          Veteran Member
                          • Nov 2009
                          • 4072

                          Originally posted by Fiveohmike
                          So to try and tighten the groups up, i should make some loads at 44.5 and 45.0 and test them out?
                          Yes. What Ahnother8 said. 1/2gr increments on that charge weight is about 1% of the total, perfectly fine....for a .223 with a charge weight of roughly half, the increments will also be half, or .25gr increments....

                          The vertical stringing could also be evidence of powder variations from case to case. Measure your charges carefully. The vertical can also be the shooter, use a front and rear rest if you can.

                          Regardless, congrats on your first handloads. You'll never shoot factory again!

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                          • #58
                            Fiveohmike
                            Senior Member
                            • Dec 2009
                            • 1047

                            You guys got a recommendation on a stable rest?
                            -- I love the mythological significance given to Dum Dum Bullets. As if they're little tactical nukes, stacked up in "Assault Clips" ready to be "sprayfired" "from the hip" by pistol grip equipped "bullet hoses" instead of early variations of the softpoint bullets people have been using to take game with (and use for self-defense) for the last century.

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                            • #59
                              sbmunshi
                              Member
                              • Feb 2010
                              • 414

                              The triad or Caldwell rear bags are nice or I've seen some use diving weights. You'll find something that works for you. Ultimately you're trying to keep the shooter error out of the equation.

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                              • #60
                                Shoot-it
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Dec 2005
                                • 5165

                                Not bad I think you did good considering your shooting an a ar-15 not a bolt action with a good trigger.

                                Anyone of those shots would be a kill on hogs or deer.
                                To get by you can use money bags and fill them with sand then sow them up .
                                Originally Posted by olhunter View Post
                                I prefer to not mount the fat ones.
                                Nice racks are much better. You can grab both sides of the rack to help stabilize while mounting.
                                ProShooter's
                                You'd never guess that human beings are apex predators reading some of the weepy vaginas in this thread, it's a moose people, who cares.

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