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  • #16
    thrasherfox
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2010
    • 2319

    If you have time, read everything. it might be long but there is a moral at the end of the story.


    I have ALL my reloading equipment, still boxed up. haven't even opened it yet.

    I am following advice that I felt was very sound, purchase as many reloading manuals as possible, and read them all before I even start reloading.

    And then use them all for cross reference when reloading.

    the books I currently have are:



    Lyman Reloading Handbook - 49th edition

    The ABC's of reloading - 8th edition

    Nosler reloading guide - 6

    Hornady - 7th edition Hornady handbook of cartridge reloading.

    And I am waiting on Lee's 2nd edition reloading manual.

    I also purchased the "RL 550B Electronic User Guide" along with my Dillon press

    In addition I have a few internet book marks for references










    You need to understand something about me, I am extremely paranoid. I am the guy who when I go to pull a tire off a car I will put the emergency brake on, place a block behind a tire, jack up the entire front end and place a 6 ton jack stand under each axle.


    I then will let the hydraulic jack down until the car is resting on the two 6 tons jacks, then I will jack the hydraulic jack back up just enough where it is touching.

    I worked on fighter air craft for 9 years of my life and I have worked on aircraft carriers and if you don't have good safety work ethics, you end up seriously injured or dead.

    One of what I feel are the many good habits I got from the service. and I pass this paranoia on to my kids.


    Next story has the most dramatic impact by starting like this:

    Get a phone call on a Friday night, I look at the caller ID and it is my friend Marty, we are going riding the next morning. so I answer the phone "Marty!! wuzzz up, ready for tomorrow?"

    Then the voice on the other end says "this is Tiffany (Marty's wife). can you do us a favor, can you go to our garage and look for Marty's thumb"

    I am like "WHAT!! what are you talking about!"

    She says "We are at the emergency room and Marty was working on his motorcycle and his thumb got ripped off and they need it to see if they can re-attach it"

    I said "Ok!! on my way over" got a few details so I knew where to look


    Marty is a friend of mine who was a fellow Marine, was also at one time a brother in-law. We were going to go motorcycle riding on a Saturday. So Friday night he decided to work on his bike, fix it up, lube it, clean it.

    Well, he did something that my paranoid mind would never allow me to do. and it was something he knew better, but he was trying to take a short cut to get done quicker.

    he wanted to clean the chain, so he placed the rear up on blocks, started the bike and put it in first gear. and while the rear tire was spinning under power he held a rag applying force on the chain with cleaner to clean it. Well, his thumb got too close to the sprocket and the thumb got chewed up into the sprocket and chain and it popped right off.

    So I spent about 45 minutes looking for his thumb, finally found it across the garage in the towel he was using. wasn't really much left but crushed and torn bone and skin. but I took it in and it was too trashed to re-attach.

    So skipping a safety step so he could save maybe a few minutes cost him a thumb that he has lost for life.

    An instant of stupidity, or not paying attention, or not being totally familiar with what you are doing with anything that is dangerous can result in catastrophe.

    One of the things that I am getting a little nervous about are squibs, so I plan on being extra cautious and already have a game plan to try to mitigate the risk.


    So long story short, you are reloading with bun powder, bullets and primers. things that will kill you or maim you in a heart beat. learn everything you can. buy multiple reading sources, watch videos and NEVER take what you are doing for granted.


    I am REALLY looking forward to reloading, I plan on building my own bench. but I am not even going to put anything together until I have read all I can.


    Just my .02
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    2 Corinthians 3:3
    You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.

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    • #17
      Chief-7700
      Veteran Member
      • May 2008
      • 3382

      OK it's good to careful around things that love to go boom, however if you understand the process there is no reason to be paranoid or create Pseudo-Reality's of what could happen. As long as you pay attention to what your doing reloading is no more dangerous that walking across the street.

      Post more of your question and concerns we are here to help.

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      • #18
        thrasherfox
        Senior Member
        • Nov 2010
        • 2319

        Originally posted by Chief-7700
        OK it's good to careful around things that love to go boom, however if you understand the process there is no reason to be paranoid or create Pseudo-Reality's of what could happen. As long as you pay attention to what your doing reloading is no more dangerous that walking across the street.

        Post more of your question and concerns we are here to help.
        Like I said, I admittedly realize I have a problem with being over paranoid.

        however on the other hand it doesn't stress me out and I am still here, so it works for me
        1 Peter 3:15

        But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect

        2 Corinthians 3:3
        You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.

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        • #19
          f4tweet
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 2016

          I agree Lees in advertising, but I love the amount of choices they give for any given caliber.

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          • #20
            Wicked K5
            Senior Member
            • Feb 2009
            • 830

            Thanks for the input everyone. I'll probably start with ABCs and Lyman, then add more once I actually purchase and set up my equipment.

            Thrasherfox,
            Sorry to hear about your friend's accident. If he hasn't already, he should look into a Roller Stand and a Grunge Brush for his chain maintenance duties.

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            • #21
              thrasherfox
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2010
              • 2319

              Originally posted by Wicked K5
              Thanks for the input everyone. I'll probably start with ABCs and Lyman, then add more once I actually purchase and set up my equipment.

              Thrasherfox,
              Sorry to hear about your friend's accident. If he hasn't already, he should look into a Roller Stand and a Grunge Brush for his chain maintenance duties.
              Oh, believe it or not, he had all that stuff. just didnt want to go dig it out. figured all he needed was a few rotations of the chain and he would be good to go.

              It happened a few years ago. but is one of those things that you kind of always remember


              Good luck and have fun reloading. I havent even started yet but I am pretty sure I am going to enjoy it
              1 Peter 3:15

              But in your hearts revere Christ as Lord. Always be prepared to give an answer to everyone who asks you to give the reason for the hope that you have. But do this with gentleness and respect

              2 Corinthians 3:3
              You show that you are a letter from Christ, the result of our ministry, written not with ink but with the Spirit of the living God, not on tablets of stone but on tablets of human hearts.

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              • #22
                donger
                Senior Member
                • Oct 2005
                • 1560

                Originally posted by Chief-7700
                I concur about Richard Lee's reloading manual pure self marketing for his products which are not that great to begin with. Cowboy I'm sanding by for the beating
                I also agree about the insane amount of propaganda in the Lee manual, but I believe that it is still a good resource for load data.
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                • #23
                  straykiller
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2010
                  • 2573

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                  • #24
                    Fyathyrio
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 1082

                    I like the Hornady manual because they give a full range of charges, not just min and max. Makes it easier to compare my results with theirs. I have nearly all the others mentioned also.

                    The Loadbooks linked to above are great, they have all the info from the major powder and bullet manufacturers specific to one caliber. Makes it much easier to compare the different sources to help you come up with your recipe.
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                    • #25
                      fullspeed1
                      Senior Member
                      • Nov 2008
                      • 1908

                      Lyman's 49th is a great start. Good information, With a great choice of Powder ranges.

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                      • #26
                        SixPointEight
                        Veteran Member
                        • May 2009
                        • 3788

                        Originally posted by Fyathyrio
                        I like the Hornady manual because they give a full range of charges, not just min and max. Makes it easier to compare my results with theirs. I have nearly all the others mentioned also.

                        The Loadbooks linked to above are great, they have all the info from the major powder and bullet manufacturers specific to one caliber. Makes it much easier to compare the different sources to help you come up with your recipe.
                        Hornady data tends to be pretty conservative. If you're going to be loading for long range stuff, just be aware of that.

                        Otherwise it's pretty good. The Lyman Manual seems to be most people's "go to" manual, and it seems like it has pretty good info. Go with that.

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