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  • shootingblanks00
    Junior Member
    • Sep 2010
    • 85

    Dumber swaging question than Wildman442's

    Ok, I would probably have to admit i am a bigger n00b than Wildman442 so here goes my dumber question but a little background first. I am looking at Gunbroker for 9mm brass and come across what looks like a good deal and in the description there is the following sentence "This is Commercial Brass but may have crimped primers, Winchester White Box and Federal FC, may have crimped primers and or sealed primers. This is not fired by Military forces, this is fired by local police agencies." So I email the seller asking him if that type of brass will be a problem if I am using a Lee Pro 1000 and I get this response "Some of the brass may have military crimps on it, which requires swaging only the first time to remove the crimp." Does anyone know if the primers are going to be a problem with my press. I am going to do more reasearch on this before I bid on the brass (there are only 2350 results for "swaging primer pockets on 9mm brass" in google). I just dont want to get bit on the butt like I did when I got Federal Small Rifle primers BEFORE I found out you aren't supposed to use then in the Pro 1000 so now I have a case of them sitting in my cabinet.
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    Sheldon
    Senior Member
    • Oct 2005
    • 2149

    Crimped primer pockets will need to have the crimp removed before you can reload them or the primers will not seat. There is enough non crimped 9mm brass around, so I would look for it instead if I were you. Look for the brass locally and save on the shipping. Should be around $25-$45 per thousand no?? Edited to add.....Found this on arfcom...basically $10 per thousand before shipping. http://www.ar15.com/forums/topic.htm...f=114&t=809184

    As far as the primers go, you can always trade with someone for another brand.....I would if you were closer.
    Last edited by Sheldon; 10-25-2010, 3:06 AM.

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    • #3
      bjl333
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      • Dec 2009
      • 7010

      There are lots of 9mm brass out there. Don't sweat too much over that stuff.

      You just started traveling down this road, I am betting your rifle primer will get used when you start loading your 223/5.56 later. Trust me you will !!!
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      • #4
        shootingblanks00
        Junior Member
        • Sep 2010
        • 85

        Originally posted by bjl333
        You just started traveling down this road, I am betting your rifle primer will get used when you start loading your 223/5.56 later. Trust me you will !!!
        Funny you should mention 223. I have my eye on a Stevens 200 XP Short in 223. Been dropping hints left and right to the wife to get it for me for christmas. Is there something you know that I dont????? lol
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        • #5
          WILDMAN442
          Senior Member
          • Jan 2010
          • 1665

          Yes im not the only one!

          I just purchased myself a swaging die so now I can load my 223 brass thank goodness

          But look around,for the better 9 deals man. Plenty of optins out there for you man

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          • #6
            Boots
            Senior Member
            • Aug 2008
            • 549

            I went with the RCBS swagger die... works like a charm. Not as stream line when it comes to production as the Dillon.
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            • #7
              ireload
              Veteran Member
              • Aug 2009
              • 2589

              Since you mentioned RCBS swagger die, you will need to sort out the brass by brand. Just don't over do it with the stem adjustment. You can bend that stem.

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              • #8
                Boots
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2008
                • 549

                Originally posted by ireload
                Since you mentioned RCBS swagger die, you will need to sort out the brass by brand. Just don't over do it with the stem adjustment. You can bend that stem.
                I do happen to have my brass separated by brand, but so far I've yet to have an issue with adjustments. As it is, the three brands I'm swagging (PMC, PPU and LC) all have tolerated the same adjustment.
                Some come out with a nice rounded edge, others not as rounded but still ample enough to get the primer in nice and smooth.
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                • #9
                  EL_NinO619
                  Senior Member
                  • Sep 2010
                  • 1519

                  The RCBS works great, just make sure you set the die properly. The instructions suck. I can crank them out pretty fast, i have a bucket next to the press and have a method where they fall to a box on the ground without touching them.
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                  • #10
                    bootcamp
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2006
                    • 1019

                    If you are new, I would vote to pass on crimped primers at least for the first few thousand rounds of ammunition you make. Dealing with crimped primers is a mixture of boredom and pain in the rear problems. Eventually you WILL bend your decapping pin(s) and unless you have spares, will halt the process. You need to get comfortable with the basics and be able to make ammunition and enjoy first. Then you can dive in if you're still into it.

                    Deswaging and trimming are the 2 things I dislike the most about reloading.
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                    • #11
                      freonr22
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                      • Dec 2008
                      • 12947

                      or if you have a cheapy drill press, you could ream it w/ a #2 phillips bit, or a countersink

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                      • #12
                        Boots
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2008
                        • 549

                        Originally posted by freonr22
                        or if you have a cheapy drill press, you could ream it w/ a #2 phillips bit, or a countersink

                        I find it to take less time to swage than to ream. I also like the fact I'm not removing metal from the shell. (besides trimming)
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