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  • #16
    XDRoX
    Veteran Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 4420

    Originally posted by Chief-7700
    Why not prime on the press/machine?
    .

    That's what I was thinking when I read that. I could see using a hand primer on a single stage press, but on a turret? That would really slow down production time.
    Chris
    <----Rimfire Addict


    Originally posted by Oceanbob
    Get a DILLON...

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    • #17
      Chief-7700
      Veteran Member
      • May 2008
      • 3382

      Who knows! Hand priming is a waste of time when the machine will do it for you.

      XL-650 to feed the: .45ACP's Les Baer Concept V, Ruger SR 1911, Ruger Nightwatchman,custom built Colt M1911, Springfield .45ACP Loaded.. 9MM SA Range Officer,Ruger P-85, Springfield Stainless 9MM loaded, SA 9MM 5.25" XDM, Springfield 9mm Stainless Range Officer, STI double stack .45ACP.
      IDPA A41750 Safety Officer
      NRA Certified RSO
      "Stay out of the deep end of the pool; correct the problem with your credit card, not your dremel!"

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      • #18
        StephenhDMRS
        Member
        • Mar 2010
        • 295

        Okay... So I added and updated the list. Please take a hopefully "final" look. I removed the hand primer and Added the Lee safety prime kit(pre-206 because of the classic turret). Also I think the Chamfer & deburring tool is a good one that will suit my purposes(if not please guide me again), zip trim & trimmer cutter and lock stud should all work together. I went from about 250 to now I'm at $400 plus I need a beam scale Hopefully midway has a $100 off of 500.

        For primers and Powder I obviously don't want to buy online because of the $25 hazardous charge. If I buy local will they factor in that charge(ex. prices will be substantially higher i.e. inclusive of the hazardous charge)? Any recommendations on primer brands(i want ones that go bang each time)?

        As always, I really appreciate everyone's help. I'm a noob when it comes to this. It seems really simple in theory but each step required a different tool which then needs to be compatible with your set up and such. Thanks again!

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        • #19
          SixPointEight
          Veteran Member
          • May 2009
          • 3788

          Never a problem with cci here.

          If you are buying in bulk, or even just 1 8lb of powder and 5k primers, you can usually save online, even with the HAZMAT

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          • #20
            XDRoX
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 4420

            This is a great scale for $75.


            Dillon makes one for $55 that's just as good. But since you're already paying the shipping from midway, you may just want to get one from them.


            For primers, really any of them will work fine. You could avoid Wolf if you really want to be careful, but I use them as well as all the others.
            My favorites are CCI and Winchester.

            Now that you are realizing just how much everything will cost you may want to consider spending a little more and getting a Dillon 550b. This one is around $375.


            If I were you, I'd get the 550b, a scale, and some Lee pistol dies. All for under $500. Learn to load pistol on the 550b, and then in a few months spend another $100 on the extra tools and dies to load rifle.

            Sorry to throw a monkey wrench into the thread, but at least something you can consider.

            I've loaded on presses of all the brands and driven cars of all the makes. Trust me, it's more fun to drive a BMW and load on a Dillon
            Chris
            <----Rimfire Addict


            Originally posted by Oceanbob
            Get a DILLON...

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            • #21
              XDRoX
              Veteran Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 4420

              Originally posted by JT1989
              Never a problem with cci here.

              If you are buying in bulk, or even just 1 8lb of powder and 5k primers, you can usually save online, even with the HAZMAT
              You're right, but the problem with midway is they charge two hazmats fees for primers and powder.
              Chris
              <----Rimfire Addict


              Originally posted by Oceanbob
              Get a DILLON...

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              • #22
                SixPointEight
                Veteran Member
                • May 2009
                • 3788

                Originally posted by XDRoX
                You're right, but the problem with midway is they charge two hazmats fees for primers and powder.
                Hit up grafs.com

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                • #23
                  GrizzlyGuy
                  Gun Runner to The Stars
                  CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                  • May 2009
                  • 5468

                  Awesome thread! I finally had a bench built in an unfinished area in my house so I'll probably buy the same stuff that Stephen is buying. Please keep giving him good ideas, I haven't reloaded since I was a kid many moons ago and this is great info. Yo Stephen, I love that you are keeping my (er, your) shopping list updated in your original post.
                  Gun law complexity got you down? Get the FAQs, Jack!

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                  • #24
                    StephenhDMRS
                    Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 295

                    I am trying For selfish reasons of course haha. Hoping this will help others to. There are other lists but I think mine is the best for everyone I think that's pretty much the completed list(for me). Should work for you to as long as you read other peoples post. My ammo types luckily cover handgun and rifle so it should be inclusive to yours to.

                    Final approval please? The List should be literally EVERYTHING I need to reload. Maybe I need case lube and also a lube pad thingy. But I really think that is everything right?

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                    • #25
                      Chief-7700
                      Veteran Member
                      • May 2008
                      • 3382

                      Sorry LEE is not on my list.

                      XL-650 to feed the: .45ACP's Les Baer Concept V, Ruger SR 1911, Ruger Nightwatchman,custom built Colt M1911, Springfield .45ACP Loaded.. 9MM SA Range Officer,Ruger P-85, Springfield Stainless 9MM loaded, SA 9MM 5.25" XDM, Springfield 9mm Stainless Range Officer, STI double stack .45ACP.
                      IDPA A41750 Safety Officer
                      NRA Certified RSO
                      "Stay out of the deep end of the pool; correct the problem with your credit card, not your dremel!"

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                      • #26
                        StephenhDMRS
                        Member
                        • Mar 2010
                        • 295

                        Well Chief-7700, that was not helpful to me Actually, that was the least helpful post in the whole thread. Everyone else has been able to put that fact aside and help me. Maybe one day I will upgrade. Got to start somewhere right? As a poor starving college student I cannot afford much more and lee is within my price range. As long as it goes bang i'll be happy. Plinking ammo doesn't need to be great.
                        Last edited by StephenhDMRS; 09-02-2010, 3:43 PM.

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                        • #27
                          Chief-7700
                          Veteran Member
                          • May 2008
                          • 3382

                          Originally posted by StephenhDMRS
                          I am trying For selfish reasons of course haha. Hoping this will help others to. There are other lists but I think mine is the best for everyone I think that's pretty much the completed list(for me). Should work for you to as long as you read other peoples post. My ammo types luckily cover handgun and rifle so it should be inclusive to yours to.

                          Final approval please? The List should be literally EVERYTHING I need to reload. Maybe I need case lube and also a lube pad thingy. But I really think that is everything right?
                          Since your a starving collage student LEE will work for you. Please read and reread the reloading manuals you are going to buy. One of the best ones out there is Lyman's 49 Edition Reloading Handbook, Lee has a reloading manual that good for the bottom of a bird cage. Just go slow and pay attention to what your doing, because you playing with things that can and have blown up.
                          Please keep us in the loop as you progress in the very addicting hobby of reloading.
                          Chief

                          XL-650 to feed the: .45ACP's Les Baer Concept V, Ruger SR 1911, Ruger Nightwatchman,custom built Colt M1911, Springfield .45ACP Loaded.. 9MM SA Range Officer,Ruger P-85, Springfield Stainless 9MM loaded, SA 9MM 5.25" XDM, Springfield 9mm Stainless Range Officer, STI double stack .45ACP.
                          IDPA A41750 Safety Officer
                          NRA Certified RSO
                          "Stay out of the deep end of the pool; correct the problem with your credit card, not your dremel!"

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                          • #28
                            Cowboy T
                            Calguns Addict
                            • Mar 2010
                            • 5725

                            Originally posted by StephenhDMRS
                            Okay... So I added and updated the list. Please take a hopefully "final" look. I removed the hand primer and Added the Lee safety prime kit(pre-206 because of the classic turret).
                            No, you were right the first time. You do need the post-2006 Safety Prime Kit. I have a Classic Turret with basically your exact desired set-up, and uses a post-2006 kit. That pre-2006 one is for turret presses that don't have the Lever-Prime System (LPS). The Classic Turret Press has had the LPS since its inception.

                            For primers and Powder I obviously don't want to buy online because of the $25 hazardous charge. If I buy local will they factor in that charge(ex. prices will be substantially higher i.e. inclusive of the hazardous charge)? Any recommendations on primer brands(i want ones that go bang each time)?
                            Go ahead and buy your powder locally. An 8-lb jug o' Bullseye or Titegroup or W231 is only about $120 and will last you a loooong time. A 4lb jug of 2400 lasted me 6 months, which, given how often I shoot and how much 2400 I use per round, is pretty damned good.

                            The HAZMAT fee's impact depends on the price of the primers and how many you buy. A while back, I bought 20,000 primers for three buddies and myself, and the HAZMAT fee was relatively small by comparison to the order. Also, primers are starting to come back down to a sane price level, so you can get some deals. I scored $18/1000 at Widener's after I convinced the lady there that she didn't need driver's license copies for primers.

                            And since you're using the Safety Prime instead of the Auto-Prime, you're safe with *any* brand of primers, including Federal. Lee Precision even says so.

                            As for those primers which consistently go bang, I have tried the following brands with 100% success, to date:

                            CCI
                            Winchester
                            Remington
                            Magtech
                            Federal
                            Wolf (same as Tula)

                            I have gone through tens of thousands of primers in just the last year. Of my reloads, I have yet to have even one failure to fire (FTF). Basically, they're all good, so go ahead and buy based on price. That's exactly what I do.
                            "San Francisco Liberal With A Gun"
                            F***ing with people's heads, one gun show at a time. Hallelujah!
                            http://www.sanfranciscoliberalwithagun.com (reloading info w/ videos)
                            http://www.liberalsguncorner.com (podcast)
                            http://www.youtube.com/sfliberal (YouTube channel)
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                            • #29
                              Cowboy T
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Mar 2010
                              • 5725

                              Originally posted by Chief-7700
                              Sorry LEE is not on my list.
                              Chief, was that really necessary?
                              "San Francisco Liberal With A Gun"
                              F***ing with people's heads, one gun show at a time. Hallelujah!
                              http://www.sanfranciscoliberalwithagun.com (reloading info w/ videos)
                              http://www.liberalsguncorner.com (podcast)
                              http://www.youtube.com/sfliberal (YouTube channel)
                              ----------------------------------------------------
                              To be a true Liberal, you must be 100% pro-Second Amendment. Anything less is inconsistent with liberalism.

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                              • #30
                                Cowboy T
                                Calguns Addict
                                • Mar 2010
                                • 5725

                                Originally posted by XDRoX
                                I've loaded on presses of all the brands and driven cars of all the makes. Trust me, it's more fun to drive a BMW and load on a Dillon
                                Will you buy it for him?
                                "San Francisco Liberal With A Gun"
                                F***ing with people's heads, one gun show at a time. Hallelujah!
                                http://www.sanfranciscoliberalwithagun.com (reloading info w/ videos)
                                http://www.liberalsguncorner.com (podcast)
                                http://www.youtube.com/sfliberal (YouTube channel)
                                ----------------------------------------------------
                                To be a true Liberal, you must be 100% pro-Second Amendment. Anything less is inconsistent with liberalism.

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