No powder

[gregr266]

Has anybody ever just loaded a 223 round with just a primer and a really light gr bullet to see if it fires..... and do you think it would. I know there are 22lr's out there that work in my marlin 60 when you single load them. Just wondering if the 223 would work the same way.

[Corbin Dallas]

You will end up with a squib in the barrel. Very dangerous situation.

[polygunner]

If there's no powder the bullet will not leave the barrel, it will be a squib.
There has to be more than a primer, at least a little pistol powder, .5 to 1 gr. It works in a 22lr because the volume of the 22lr is a lot less than a .223 case. They are known as gallery loads.
Use at your own risk!
pg

[What Just Happened?]

I'm sure the primer would fire, but I'm not sure if the round would make it all the way out of the barrel. There's some people who do that with handgun rounds and gluesticks to practice indoors, but there's a large difference in weight between a 230 gr .45acp bullet and a part of a gluestick.

[Chief-7700]

After I read what the OP had to say, something along the lines of candidate for a Darwin Award came to mind.

[gregr266]

After I read what the OP had to say, something along the lines of candidate for a Darwin Award came to mind.

So how is asking a simple ? puts me in line for the "Darwin Award" Thats why questions are asked....for learning. If you dont have anything to add to the conversation.....stay out of it..

[SixPointEight]

The lowest load I've seen is around 4gr of 2230 for a subsonic load. I wouldn't go much lower than that.

[Corbin Dallas]

So how is asking a simple ? puts me in line for the "Darwin Award" Thats why questions are asked....for learning. If you dont have anything to add to the conversation.....stay out of it..

Because by asking the question, you are considering trying it.

If you reload ammunition you would know that just a primer and no powder = squib.

Google is your friend. You may want to check out what happens when a squib is in the barrel and a hot round follows.

[AEC1]

Because by asking the question, you are considering trying it.

If you reload ammunition you would know that just a primer and no powder = squib.

Google is your friend. You may want to check out what happens when a squib is in the barrel and a hot round follows.

Not always. 22lr colibri loads are just a primer, and it works just fine from a non auto loader. I think it was a ver valid new guy just learning question. Quit busting his squib's

[Trapper]

Stay safe and follow the published data in reloading manuals. Shooting a live round after a squib could cause a ruptured barrel and a trip to the ER.

[Trapper]

The .22colibri fires a .22cal, 20gr soft lead bullet at 375fps, a .223rem would be loaded with a jacketed .224 caliber bullet which would have much more friction in the bore of the rifle.

[CSACANNONEER]

Not always. 22lr colibri loads are just a primer, and it works just fine from a non auto loader. I think it was a ver valid new guy just learning question. Quit busting his squib's

Besides using a special 20 grain hollow based projectile, they are ONLY supposed to be shot from handguns. I have sqiubed them in rifle barrels before!

[Corbin Dallas]

Not always. 22lr colibri loads are just a primer, and it works just fine from a non auto loader. I think it was a ver valid new guy just learning question. Quit busting his squib's

Did the OP ask about 22lr reloading questions? No, they asked about reloading a remington 223 with ONLY a primer.

Is this the proper load data for a 223? No, it's not. It's not even a load. It's a primer, case and a bullet. It WILL end up as a squib.

Now quit busting my chops unless you have something constructive to add.

[CSACANNONEER]

Did the OP ask about 22lr reloading questions? No, they asked about reloading a remington 223 with ONLY a primer.

Is this the proper load data for a 223? No, it's not. It's not even a load. It's a primer, case and a bullet. It WILL end up as a squib.

Now quit busting my chops unless you have something constructive to add.

To be fair, I have several thousand rounds of 17 grain, gas checked, plastic training rounds in .223. I'm willing to bet that the projos would work fine if they were shot from a short pistol barrel and were only propelled by primers.

As far as using a standard 40-77 grain bullet and shooting them through a rifle length barrel, I would not do it. It's not going to work.

[AEC1]

I know it will not work, but I have been loading for 2 decades. What I said is a new guy who reads something about a colibri load, who has a question if the concept would work with a .223 is a valid question. He got this answer.

It in no way would nominate him for a Darwin award or any other insult to his intellect.

Just the opposite, if he had tried it and squibed his barrel, then fired a properly loaded 77gr smk down the tube to clear the squib, then a sure Darwin award it is.

But asking if it would work, to me is a great question that puts him at the top of the evolutionary chain for being smart enough not to try something that is not in the load data. Instead he asked a group with more experience in loading if it was a safe procedure.

I think that is called due diligence.