Dillon's Rapid Trim question

[RaymondMillbrae]

If I ever have a few extra shekels laying around, I will purchase a 1050 for a dedicated rifle reloader.

I gotta admit, being able to skip that extra swaging step sure would be nice!

In Christ: Raymond

PS: Good luck on the match tomorrow, Joe. I have an afternoon locksmithing job I have to do tomorrow afternoon, so I will not be able to make it.

[joelogic]

A few shekels? Its going to take more than that buddy.

[RaymondMillbrae]

Ha ha ha.

I wonder how much I could get for one of my kidneys?

In Christ: Raymond

[smird]

What kind of condition is the kidney in? How many "rounds" thru it? Worthless with out the pics. Willing to ship?

Brad

Ha ha ha.

I wonder how much I could get for one of my kidneys?

In Christ: Raymond

[bootcamp]

The dillon trimmer sizes, but does not nexk expand or decap.

You will need to lube the cases before they are sized and trimmed.
You will need to decap at some point in the process.
You will need to neck expand after sizing and trimming.

What I recommend is this:
Setup a "sizing/trimming" toolhead for a lube die in station 1 and the trimmer in station 3.
Cycle the cases through the press and you will end up with lubed, decapped, sized and trimmed cases.

Then take those cases and tumble them again to remove lube.

Then you will have your "loading" toolhead which will have an RCBS decapping die with a neck expander stem installed in station 1, then powder measure, seat and crimp dies as normal for the rest of the toolhead.
The decap die will expand the case necks and remove any media that may have been lodged in the flash hole during the tumbling that removed the lube.

Randall,

I'm setting up my 550 as follows...

Prep toolhead

1 - Lee Universal Decapper
2 - Blank
3 - Size & Trim (RT-1200)
4 - Blank

Interim steps

Deswage if necessary

Loading toolhead

1 - RCBS decapping die with neck expander (do I piece this together or does RCBS make this for 223?) + forward stroke to prime
2 - Powder Charge
3 - Powder Cop Die or RCBS Powder Check Die (I would like a Dillon Powder Check but I don't think it works on the 550)
4 - Seat and Crimp

Does this sound correct?

[ar15barrels]

Loading toolhead

1 - RCBS decapping die with neck expander (do I piece this together or does RCBS make this for 223?) + forward stroke to prime
2 - Powder Charge
3 - Powder Cop Die or RCBS Powder Check Die (I would like a Dillon Powder Check but I don't think it works on the 550)
4 - Seat and Crimp

Does this sound correct?

You are going to have a hard time setting the bullets on top of the case in the 4th station.
Develop a good consistent routine and you don't have to worry about squibs.
Squibs only happen from starting and stopping out of sequence.

When I stop, I run the press dry of cases.
That way you start up fresh each time you aproach the bench.

[Set4Success]

how many cases can you trim per hour with:

Possum Hollow

Dillon 1200

[BlackViper]

What I recommend is this:
Setup a "sizing/trimming" toolhead for a lube die in station 1 and the trimmer in station 3.
Cycle the cases through the press and you will end up with lubed, decapped, sized and trimmed cases.

Then take those cases and tumble them again to remove lube.

Then you will have your "loading" toolhead which will have an RCBS decapping die with a neck expander stem installed in station 1, then powder measure, seat and crimp dies as normal for the rest of the toolhead.
The decap die will expand the case necks and remove any media that may have been lodged in the flash hole during the tumbling that removed the lube.

This is how I'm setting up my new 650 using your advice over PM and from your bulk brass thread. My last question has to do with the neck expander dies...

From reading it seems those dies that neck expand on the down stroke is what you want, especially after sizing/trimming so that the case isn't stretched at all. People seem to like the Lyman M die for this, which I could mount in station 5 of the sizing/trimming tool head. Then I could use a simple decapping die to clear the flash hole as the first step of the sizing tool head. Or I could do it in a single step with something like the RCBS 22-250 neck sizer die which looks like it also has a decapping rod - but I don't know for sure if it sizes on the down stroke.

Any opinion on which way would work the best? On your bulk thread it looks like you're using a powder die to stabilize the shell plate on the sizing tool head - does it work okay just having the lube die and trimmer in it?

If the Lyman M die is really the bees knees I could put that in station 5 and just use a simple decapper in the other tool head.

[Set4Success]

You only have lube die for trim?

How do you lube after the trim to reload?

[ar15barrels]

This is how I'm setting up my new 650 using your advice over PM and from your bulk brass thread. My last question has to do with the neck expander dies...

From reading it seems those dies that neck expand on the down stroke is what you want, especially after sizing/trimming so that the case isn't stretched at all. People seem to like the Lyman M die for this, which I could mount in station 5 of the sizing/trimming tool head. Then I could use a simple decapping die to clear the flash hole as the first step of the sizing tool head. Or I could do it in a single step with something like the RCBS 22-250 neck sizer die which looks like it also has a decapping rod - but I don't know for sure if it sizes on the down stroke.

Any opinion on which way would work the best? On your bulk thread it looks like you're using a powder die to stabilize the shell plate on the sizing tool head - does it work okay just having the lube die and trimmer in it?

If the Lyman M die is really the bees knees I could put that in station 5 and just use a simple decapper in the other tool head.

Either method works fine.
It does help to have something in station 5 to make the platform more rigid at the top of the stroke.
I just use a powder die there.
I put a 223 sizer die in station one of the loading toolhead and adjust the die body up high enough that the case neck never gets touched by the die body.
Then I adjust the decapping stem back down low enough that it will clear the primer pocket.
In this configuration, the expander ball is quite a bit lower than the neck of the die so it does expand and clear the flash hole of any media.