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  • tools2teach
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2009
    • 1936

    Stuck cases when resizing

    So far 2 months of reloading. All is good, learning from great calgunners contributing to my many questions. Thanks!

    The problem I have now it stuck cases when resizing. I have tried Hornandy One Shot, Dillon soaked in lube, and then I heard rave reviews on imperial wax, so I went and took the plunge. Haven't tried imperial yet, because I sent the dies back to RCBS. One of the dies I tried to remove the stuck case brokethe decapping pin, the other was another RCBS with a stuck case, but didn't have to the tools to remove it, so I sent that in as well.

    Am I doing something wrong here or is this common? With imperial wax do I want to dabble and spread the wax on the outside of the case of the entire case?
    Last edited by tools2teach; 03-03-2010, 8:35 PM.
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    EOD3
    Senior Member
    • Nov 2003
    • 949

    What ammunition are you loading?
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    • #3
      kurac
      Veteran Member
      • Dec 2005
      • 2917

      You are doing something wrong, I have never had a stuck and I have been reloading since 1992.

      Broken decapping pins happen, more so from military brass with crimped or staked primers
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      • #4
        tools2teach
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2009
        • 1936

        lake city 308 and 223
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        • #5
          EBR Works
          Vendor/Retailer
          • Dec 2007
          • 10492

          You only want to use a very thin layer of the Imperial wax on the case, but not on the neck to avoid dents. I also swipe my finger with some across the case mouth to ease passage of the ball on rifle cases.

          Are you using a case gauge to adjust your sizing die optimally or are you just following the manufacturer instructions? Tell us how you are doing initial adjustment.

          You are going to want one of these since stuck cases do sometimes just happen:



          When using the One Shot or Dillon lube, are you allowing the cases to dry for about 5 minutes before resizing? This is really important. BTW, I have found that One Shot is not adequate for sizing .308 brass.
          Last edited by EBR Works; 03-03-2010, 8:41 PM.


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          • #6
            tools2teach
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2009
            • 1936

            Are you using a case gauge to adjust your sizing die optimally or are you just following the manufacturer instructions? Tell us how you are doing initial adjustment.[/QUOTE]

            Per manual adjustment, set the dies close enough to where it's touching the shell plate.

            I use calipers and then trim if that what you mean by case gauging, then check the head spacing every 100 rounds.
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            • #7
              tools2teach
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2009
              • 1936

              [/quote]When using the One Shot or Dillon lube, are you allowing the cases to dry for about 5 minutes before resizing? This is really important. BTW, I have found that One Shot is not adequate for sizing .308 brass.[/QUOTE]

              That's probably what it is. I'm not waiting for it to soak in. I give it about 1-2 minutes.
              A golf course is a terrible waste of a perfectly good rifle range. -Lt. Col. Dave Grossman

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              • #8
                EBR Works
                Vendor/Retailer
                • Dec 2007
                • 10492

                You have to allow time for the alcohol in the lube to evaporate. IIRC, the instructions recommend 5 minutes.

                Really, try the Imperial wax. You just use a tiny bit. I have never stuck a case with it from .223 up to .50 DTC. I have stuck several cases with One Shot though.

                Having the sizing die adjusted too far down can contribute to stuck cases. Get one of these for each caliber to set up your sizing dies correctly. This will help avoid case sticking as well as not overworking your brass:



                Last edited by EBR Works; 03-03-2010, 8:53 PM.


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                • #9
                  mjsweims
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2009
                  • 807

                  I've had the problem with 30-06 due to inadequate case lube.
                  Now I use Hornady Unique (a solid wax like product). I didn't have much luck with the spray stuff. The RCBS case lube and pad also seemed to work ok.

                  I made up my own stuck case remover kit with what I had lying around:
                  3/16 drill bit
                  1/4-20 tap
                  5/8 long socket
                  some 1/4" bolts nut and washer
                  Jack

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                  • #10
                    C.G.
                    Calguns Addict
                    • Oct 2005
                    • 8213

                    Originally posted by mjsweims
                    Now I use Hornady Unique (a solid wax like product). I didn't have much luck with the spray stuff.
                    If you want to save some money next time around just get some Lanacote or Lanolin, same stuff as Hornady or, I am told, Dillon case lubes.
                    If you want to make it into a spray then just mix Lanacote or Lanolin with isopropyl alcohol at least 91% pure (99% is best, less than 91% will not mix well; it is 4 to 5 parts alcohol and 1 part Lanacote/Lanolin); try to mix when warm and do not warm by direct fire.
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                    • #11
                      J-cat
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2005
                      • 6626

                      Originally posted by impactco
                      You only want to use a very thin layer of the Imperial wax on the case, but not on the neck to avoid dents. I also swipe my finger with some across the case mouth to ease passage of the ball on rifle cases.

                      Are you using a case gauge to adjust your sizing die optimally or are you just following the manufacturer instructions? Tell us how you are doing initial adjustment.

                      You are going to want one of these since stuck cases do sometimes just happen:



                      When using the One Shot or Dillon lube, are you allowing the cases to dry for about 5 minutes before resizing? This is really important. BTW, I have found that One Shot is not adequate for sizing .308 brass.
                      +1

                      Imperial is the best.

                      I open the tin, touch the wax with my index finger and thumb (as if to be fingerprinted) and rub a very thin coating of wax on the case. Only the thinnest coating is necessary.

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                      • #12
                        kmca
                        Senior Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 2371

                        I was having problems with stuck cases, so I talked to a nice lady at RCBS. The first question she asked was if I was using One Shot lube and that 95% of the stuck cases they deal with was involving One Shot. I switched to RCBS lube and haven't stuck another case yet.

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                        • #13
                          Gunsrruss
                          Senior Member
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 1488

                          Stuck case " No More "

                          I haven't stuck a case in ages. I bought the RCBS lube pad and I spray it with Dillon lube and let it dry. Then I roll the brass lightly on the pad and size. You don't have to roll it back and fourth, just one time. Make sure your using small base dies also. There are those who say this isn't needed, but trust me it works. Now go do what ever you want to do. Remember I gave you the straight skinny
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                          • #14
                            EBR Works
                            Vendor/Retailer
                            • Dec 2007
                            • 10492

                            Originally posted by Gunsrruss
                            I haven't stuck a case in ages. I bought the RCBS lube pad and I spray it with Dillon lube and let it dry. Then I roll the brass lightly on the pad and size. You don't have to roll it back and fourth, just one time. Make sure your using small base dies also. There are those who say this isn't needed, but trust me it works. Now go do what ever you want to do. Remember I gave you the straight skinny
                            Interesting idea using the pad with Dillon lube. I have been reloading for 30+ years and have never seen the need for small base dies. IMO, they just overwork the brass. The important thing is to have case gauges for each caliber to adjust your sizing dies correctly.


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                            • #15
                              J-cat
                              Calguns Addict
                              • May 2005
                              • 6626

                              Originally posted by impactco
                              IMO, they just overwork the brass. The important thing is to have case gauges for each caliber to adjust your sizing dies correctly.
                              Did you ever measure cases sized in a small base vs. regular dies? I have, and the difference is .001-.002" at the casehead. That is hardly overworking the case.

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