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  • #16
    SCMA-1
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    • Mar 2009
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    I guess we need to know one more thing; is the "failure to feed" where the cartridge gets stuck at an angle going into the chamber or is it one where the cartridge enters the chamber but fails to go completely into battery? That would tell us alot more about what the problem might be. If it gets stuck at an angle and doesn't go into the chamber, then it could be the OAL, magazines, extractor, breach face, etc. If it is a failure to go into battery then it's an oversized case.
    Last edited by SCMA-1; 02-21-2010, 9:42 AM.
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    • #17
      J-cat
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      • May 2005
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      They could be underpowered as well.

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      • #18
        GunPhonatic
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        • Jul 2009
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        Originally posted by SCMA-1
        I guess we need to know one more thing; is the "failure to feed" where the cartridge gets stuck at an angle going into the chamber or is it one where the cartridge enters the chamber but fails to go completely into battery? That would tell us alot more about what the problem might be. If it gets stuck at an angle and doesn't go into the chamber, then it could be the OAL, magazines, extractor, breach face, etc. If it is a failure to go into battery then it's an oversized case.
        The round wont chamber(the slide and frame dont line up) and its a PITA to pull the slide back to clear it. Thanks for all the comments and advice guys. I would rather not polish the feed ramps because all other ammo works perfectly. I hope someone chimes in that is local so we can try to fix these.
        Last edited by GunPhonatic; 02-21-2010, 10:20 AM.

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        • #19
          J-cat
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2005
          • 6626

          If the bullets are too big in diameter, they can't be fixed.

          Take the barrel out of the gun and drop one of the rounds in the chamber. Where is it binding?

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          • #20
            SCMA-1
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            • Mar 2009
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            Originally posted by GunPhonatic
            The round wont chamber(the slide and frame dont line up) and its a PITA to pull the slide back to clear it. Thanks for all the comments and advice guys. I would rather not polish the feed ramps because all other ammo works perfectly. I hope someone chimes in that is local so we can try to fix these.
            So, the round goes into the chamber but gets stuck slightly out of battery, then when you try to withdraw the slide to extract the round, it's stuck? Is that an accurate description of what's happening with this ammo? How often does this happen? Every round or every few rounds?
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            • #21
              GunPhonatic
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              • Jul 2009
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              Originally posted by SCMA-1
              So, the round goes into the chamber but gets stuck slightly out of battery, then when you try to withdraw the slide to extract the round, it's stuck? Is that an accurate description of what's happening with this ammo? How often does this happen? Every round or every few rounds?

              Yup that is what is happening. It does it on every few rounds. Enough to get annoyed with it.

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              • #22
                SCMA-1
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                Originally posted by GunPhonatic
                Yup that is what is happening. It does it on every few rounds. Enough to get annoyed with it.
                OK, then it is what J-cat suggested. It could be because the heavy crimp bulged the case mouth and so the cartridge is too big or it can be that the bullets were not sized correctly and are slightly too big. It could also be a combination of those two things plus your chamber being tight.

                Look at railroader's post; that's the way to resize the loaded cartridges back down to where they should be.
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                • #23
                  GunPhonatic
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                  • Jul 2009
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                  I just took the barrel out and tried to drop a round through it. Does not go through, so it does need to be resized. Thanks everyone.

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                  • #24
                    SCMA-1
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                    Originally posted by GunPhonatic
                    I just took the barrel out and tried to drop a round through it. Does not go through, so it does need to be resized. Thanks everyone.
                    Can you perhaps return/exchange the reloads from where you got them?
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                    • #25
                      GunPhonatic
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                      • Jul 2009
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                      Not really. I got them from someone that claims they bought them from a gun show...

                      Originally posted by SCMA-1
                      Can you perhaps return/exchange the reloads from where you got them?

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                      • #26
                        SCMA-1
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                        • Mar 2009
                        • 4291

                        Originally posted by GunPhonatic
                        Not really. I got them from someone that claims they bought them from a gun show...
                        oh........ok. Hopefully you can find a fellow CalGunner in your area that has a press; you may have to buy that cartridge sizing die.
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                        • #27
                          J-cat
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                          • May 2005
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                          Givem back to the "someone". Better he KB his gun than you.

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                          • #28
                            Bentot
                            Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 156

                            Looks like its crimped not by using a taper crimp. Perhaps a Lee Factory Crimp Die might be a solution. YMMV.

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                            • #29
                              nn3453
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                              • Apr 2009
                              • 2245

                              Originally posted by J-cat
                              Givem back to the "someone". Better he KB his gun than you.
                              ^^^ Please don't shoot ammo you know nothing about.
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                              • #30
                                Army GI
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                                Originally posted by GunPhonatic
                                Not really. I got them from someone that claims they bought them from a gun show...
                                Dude, throw those ****s away! You don't want to shoot random gunshow ammo through your gun. What happens if you fire a double-charged round (which is easily possible with these backyard reloaders) through your gun?

                                It's not worth saving a few extra bucks for slightly cheaper ammo.
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