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  • #76
    ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 57157

    Originally posted by powaybob
    Here is the latest in my learning experience. I have the primers working pretty well now. I did tighten the nut on the ram as it had worked loose and adjusted the travel on the cam wire so the shuttle does not get hung up as often.
    I don't know how the hornady shellplate is held down, but the dillon shellplates are held down by a shoulder bolt with a brass tipped setscrew into the side of the bolt.
    Put grease under the plate.
    Snug down the bolt finger tight, then back it off the minimal amount to allow free movement without any extra slop.
    Tighten the setscrew down to lock the shoulder bolt in place.

    There must be a similar parallel on your press.
    Randall Rausch

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    • #77
      Fyathyrio
      Senior Member
      • Nov 2009
      • 1082

      Plate is spoda be lubed a little underneath around the detend balls and the retaining bolt should be snug. I've also noticed that moving the handle too slow can cause it to occasionally not index completely...firm action seems to do the trick.

      Pull the shell plate off and see if there's a wear ring forming on the base plate matching the outter diameter of the shell plate...you may also see one of the shell plate edges showing some wear. If you see these conditions then it may have been warped during heat treating...I understand they had a bad batch come back from their outside heat treating facility.

      If you've followed along this far, you are already aware that this never has and never will happen to a Dillon press!
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      Originally posted by James Earl Jones
      The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose.

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      • #78
        eaglemike
        CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
        CGN Contributor - Lifetime
        • Jan 2008
        • 3939

        To the OP - hang in there. Learn to use everything, how it works, and you'll end up with good stuff. Try using Winchester, Remington, or Federal Primers. A lot of the others can work "OK" - but a VERY small difference in the primers can make a huge difference in reliability. When I was working at Star, and we got a call about priming issues, they were pretty much always CCI primers - just an example. If you want to try 100 or so of others and can't get them easily, shoot me a p.m. I can likely help with die adjustment too. I've loaded a few .45's with jacketed and lead, mostly lead.

        I used to sell Dillon stuff. I've seen 550's and 650's puke primers like you wouldn't believe. I have a scale I purchased with a lifetime warranty that isn't honored. I know people with 1050's purchased with lifetime warranty that isn't honored. I've seen brand new Dillon 650's with important parts missing from the box. No one is perfect. Dillon has developed the marketing stuff really well, and supports their stuff pretty well.

        There can be a learning curve, even for experienced reloaders.

        For a first progressive, a 550 is pretty tough to beat. I've thought about trying a LnL, but not enough time to learn a new machine right now.

        all the best,
        Mike
        Last edited by eaglemike; 01-08-2010, 7:06 PM.
        There are some people that it's just not worth engaging.

        It's a muzzle BRAKE, not a muzzle break. Or is your muzzle tired?

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        • #79
          powaybob
          Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 435

          Declaring Victory!

          I finally ran a batch smoothly, efficiently and reasonably error free. Adjusting the pawls was the final step to get the timing right, and with that things went smoothly at least for 45. I plan to start loading .308 in a few months so we will see how that goes.

          Thanks for all the help I got from forum readers and responders.

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          • #80
            EBR Works
            Vendor/Retailer
            • Dec 2007
            • 10492

            Originally posted by powaybob
            I finally ran a batch smoothly, efficiently and reasonably error free. Adjusting the pawls was the final step to get the timing right, and with that things went smoothly at least for 45. I plan to start loading .308 in a few months so we will see how that goes.

            Thanks for all the help I got from forum readers and responders.
            Great to hear that you have everything working right!

            Speaking of .308, I just started to load it yesterday in the LNL AP. I had loaded .223, 7.62x39 and various pistol calibers in it before with good results. I ran 100 cases through the press just to resize and decap only. The .308 requires substantially more pressure to resize and it feels like it is almost at the limit of the press. I have not had this problem with my Rock Chucker that I have been using for .308 in the past. I have been using One Shot lube but I think I'll have to switch to Dillon spray lube or Imperial wax for these larger cartridges in the LNL. I did manage to stick the last case in the batch. Luckily the RCBS stuck case tools yanked it right out!
            Last edited by EBR Works; 01-10-2010, 11:03 AM.


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            • #81
              mstlaurent
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2007
              • 1408

              Originally posted by impactco
              Great to hear that you have everything working right!

              Speaking of .308, I just started to load it yesterday in the LNL AP. I had loaded .223, 7.62x39 and various pistol calibers in it before with good results. I ran 100 cases through the press just to resize and decap only. The .308 requires substantially more pressure to resize and it feels like it is almost at the limit of the press. I have not had this problem with my Rock Chucker that I have been using for .308 in the past. I have been using One Shot lube but I think I'll have to switch to Dillon spray lube or Imperial wax for these larger cartridges in the LNL. I did manage to stick the last case in the batch. Luckily the RCBS stuck case tools yanked it right out!
              I use an RCBS Lube Die. Runs them through smoother than silk. I tried using the One Shot, and no matter what I did I still got stuck cases.
              I've never seen an American flag burned at a gun show.

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              • #82
                freonr22
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Dec 2008
                • 12945

                imperial sizing wax....
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                Originally posted by dantodd
                We will win. We are right. We will never stop fighting.
                Originally posted by bwiese
                They don't believe it's possible, but then Alison didn't believe there'd be 350K - 400K OLLs in CA either.
                Originally posted by louisianagirl
                Our fate is ours alone to decide as long as we remain armed heavily enough to dictate it.

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                • #83
                  EBR Works
                  Vendor/Retailer
                  • Dec 2007
                  • 10492

                  Originally posted by freonr22
                  imperial sizing wax....
                  Yep, I use this for single stage, low volume reloading like .50 cal. It just isn't practical to use when you have to do 500 rounds at a sitting considering the time it takes to apply and then remove from the case.


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                  • #84
                    freonr22
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Dec 2008
                    • 12945

                    Originally posted by freonr22
                    I lubed 1500 cases last night w/ imeprial. two fingers in the can, put on palms, repeated 3x over the batch and grabbed fistfuls of cases squeezing, then tumbled by hand, just a light coat on all in 2-3 minutes so that can has lubed 6000 cases and still have about 25% left
                    just a thought


                    sigpic
                    Originally posted by dantodd
                    We will win. We are right. We will never stop fighting.
                    Originally posted by bwiese
                    They don't believe it's possible, but then Alison didn't believe there'd be 350K - 400K OLLs in CA either.
                    Originally posted by louisianagirl
                    Our fate is ours alone to decide as long as we remain armed heavily enough to dictate it.

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                    • #85
                      EBR Works
                      Vendor/Retailer
                      • Dec 2007
                      • 10492

                      Interesting. So, do you tumble the completed rounds after to remove the lube?


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                      • #86
                        freonr22
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 12945

                        i meant tumble the brass in my hands w/ lube/wax. and realistically lube is gone by the time processing/ handling them
                        sigpic
                        Originally posted by dantodd
                        We will win. We are right. We will never stop fighting.
                        Originally posted by bwiese
                        They don't believe it's possible, but then Alison didn't believe there'd be 350K - 400K OLLs in CA either.
                        Originally posted by louisianagirl
                        Our fate is ours alone to decide as long as we remain armed heavily enough to dictate it.

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                        • #87
                          EBR Works
                          Vendor/Retailer
                          • Dec 2007
                          • 10492

                          Yes, understood. How do you remove the lube from 1500 at a time? With small batches, I just wipe them off with paper towels.


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                          • #88
                            freonr22
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Dec 2008
                            • 12945

                            I really havent had to remove the lube. after processing ie, decrimp,trim etc. they sat for a couple weeks and seem pretty lube free...


                            eta:

                            I guess you could always throw the lot on a bath towel and stir them on it
                            Last edited by freonr22; 01-14-2010, 12:47 PM.
                            sigpic
                            Originally posted by dantodd
                            We will win. We are right. We will never stop fighting.
                            Originally posted by bwiese
                            They don't believe it's possible, but then Alison didn't believe there'd be 350K - 400K OLLs in CA either.
                            Originally posted by louisianagirl
                            Our fate is ours alone to decide as long as we remain armed heavily enough to dictate it.

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                            • #89
                              mstlaurent
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2007
                              • 1408

                              Originally posted by freonr22
                              I really havent had to remove the lube. after processing ie, decrimp,trim etc. they sat for a couple weeks and seem pretty lube free...


                              eta:

                              I guess you could always throw the lot on a bath towel and stir them on it
                              I take a page from Randall's playbook and do them in two steps. I run them for a quick trip through the tumbler just to get any grit off of them, then I set up the press to decap, lube, and size them. Then I trim them with the Possum Hollow and decrimp/clean the primer pockets with the Hornady crimp remover. After that they go for a long trip in the tumbler to get the lube off and really scrub out the primer pockets. After that I set up the press to load them with an RCBS universal decapper in the first station to make sure the flash holes are clear of tumbling media. It takes a little longer, but I wind up with shiny, clean, lube-free brass without having to tumble the loaded rounds.
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                              • #90
                                EBR Works
                                Vendor/Retailer
                                • Dec 2007
                                • 10492

                                Nice procedure! The universal decapper to clear the flash holes is a great idea. Thanks for that.


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