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  • GunOwner
    Member
    • May 2007
    • 446

    Help - Dealing with crimped primers

    I am just getting in to reloading and noticed some of the once shot brass available, particularly .223, has crimped primers. How much work is it to deal with - what is involved - should I avoid it?
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  • #2
    freonr22
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Dec 2008
    • 12945

    http://www.calguns.net/calgunforum/s...d.php?t=211158 take a peek @ post 20-24
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    Originally posted by dantodd
    We will win. We are right. We will never stop fighting.
    Originally posted by bwiese
    They don't believe it's possible, but then Alison didn't believe there'd be 350K - 400K OLLs in CA either.
    Originally posted by louisianagirl
    Our fate is ours alone to decide as long as we remain armed heavily enough to dictate it.

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    • #3
      dwtt
      Calguns Addict
      • Oct 2005
      • 7470

      There are swaging dies to remove the crimp on the primer pocket of the cartridge. I bought one on ebay for ~5 bucks several years ago and used it to remove the crimp on Federal .223 brass. I prefer to swage than using a trimmer since swaging doesn't remove brass from the primer pocket.

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      • #4
        Sky_DiveR
        Veteran Member
        • Dec 2008
        • 3017

        It's no big deal, most military brass has the primer crimped in. After you pop out the primer (I use Lee's universal depriming die) you can ream each one out with a deburring tool, or swage it one with a swaging tool. I use RCBS's swaging die (~$35 & slower) or you can pick up Dillons swaging tool ($99 & way faster). Depends on how many you have to do and how much you want to spend, but at least you only have to swage or ream once... after that it's just like any other brass.

        You pays your money, you make your choice.... only you can decide if it is worth it. That's the whole point of reloading.... you can do as much or as little work as you want. You can even buy brass already prepped so you don't have to deal with the crimps.

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        • #5
          freonr22
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Dec 2008
          • 12945

          heck for a little bit you can have it done for you




          dhenry132
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          I know this is a little late. But I have a brass processing business.
          Please look at my web page for more information.

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          Originally posted by dantodd
          We will win. We are right. We will never stop fighting.
          Originally posted by bwiese
          They don't believe it's possible, but then Alison didn't believe there'd be 350K - 400K OLLs in CA either.
          Originally posted by louisianagirl
          Our fate is ours alone to decide as long as we remain armed heavily enough to dictate it.

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          • #6
            Milsurp Collector
            Calguns Addict
            CGN Contributor
            • Jan 2009
            • 5884

            +1 on the RCBS primer pocket swager. Worth getting if you reload surplus military brass http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=447022
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            pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
            Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

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            • #7
              freakshow10mm
              Veteran Member
              • Jun 2008
              • 3061

              60 degree counter sink
              Dillon Super Swage
              Hornady pocket reamer
              RCBS swage die
              Last edited by freakshow10mm; 10-19-2009, 12:30 PM.

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              • #8
                GunOwner
                Member
                • May 2007
                • 446

                Originally posted by Milsurp Collector
                +1 on the RCBS primer pocket swager. Worth getting if you reload surplus military brass http://www.midwayusa.com/viewproduct...tnumber=447022
                This looks great - as I mentioned I am a Noob so what is an O shaped press the reviews of this product mention? What is the best set up for using this since it can't be used on a progressive press?
                I decline to answer any questions without legal advice.
                There is nothing illegal in my car, and I do not consent to a search of my car. Am I free to go?

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                • #9
                  Spyduh
                  Senior Member
                  • May 2008
                  • 870

                  Originally posted by freakshow10mm
                  60 degree counter sink
                  Dillon Super Swage
                  Hornady pocket reamer
                  RCBS dwage die
                  You forgot two
                  RCBS Trim Mate Case Prep Center


                  Dillon 1050
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                  • #10
                    freakshow10mm
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jun 2008
                    • 3061

                    Originally posted by Spyduh
                    You forgot one
                    RCBS Trim Mate Case Prep Center
                    http://www.midwayusa.com/Search/#RCB..._1-2-4_8-16-32
                    Essentially the same as a pocket trimmer.

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                    • #11
                      Milsurp Collector
                      Calguns Addict
                      CGN Contributor
                      • Jan 2009
                      • 5884

                      Originally posted by GunOwner
                      as I mentioned I am a Noob so what is an O shaped press the reviews of this product mention? What is the best set up for using this since it can't be used on a progressive press?
                      O-shaped just means the frame of the press is a ring, actually a rounded rectangle







                      The RCBS primer pocket swager will work with any standard reloading press. Some people mentioned the cup that goes over the ram is too small to fit a Lee press, but someone else said they contacted RCBS and RCBS sent them one that fit free of charge. I use the RCBS primer pocket swager on my Lee Classic Turret press without problems.
                      Revolvers are not pistols

                      pistol nouna handgun whose chamber is integral with the barrel
                      Calling a revolver a "pistol" is like calling a magazine a "clip", calling a shotgun a rifle, or a calling a man a woman.

                      ExitCalifornia.org

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                      • #12
                        freonr22
                        I need a LIFE!!
                        • Dec 2008
                        • 12945

                        I have 6000 223 cases to deprime/remove crimp. I am using the #2 phillips bit in a drill press and it takes about 2 seconds of contact for each case. It is a daunting task I am seeing, but time is more available to me right now more than the funds to have some one else process. so far I have maybe 750-1000 done.
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                        Originally posted by dantodd
                        We will win. We are right. We will never stop fighting.
                        Originally posted by bwiese
                        They don't believe it's possible, but then Alison didn't believe there'd be 350K - 400K OLLs in CA either.
                        Originally posted by louisianagirl
                        Our fate is ours alone to decide as long as we remain armed heavily enough to dictate it.

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                        • #13
                          freakshow10mm
                          Veteran Member
                          • Jun 2008
                          • 3061

                          Buy a Dillon swager for $100. Use it. Then sell it for $100.

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                          • #14
                            GrayWolf09
                            Senior Member
                            • Oct 2008
                            • 1619

                            The RCBS or Dillon swagers and the Hornady and Lyman reamers all work well. I prefer the swagers but the reamers will work also. IMO the Hornady reamer is better than the Lyman. Stick the reamer in a drill press or an electric drill and ream away.

                            The real pain is decapping. Having bent several decapping rods, the Lee universal decapper is the ticket. I recommend it highly.
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                            • #15
                              ciscosixgun
                              Member
                              • May 2008
                              • 372

                              Buy a Dillon 1050 it will swage your primer pockets while you are reloading.

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