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  • BiggSean
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2009
    • 597

    Reloading with Wolf primers

    I'm about to start reloading for the first time this weekend. I'll be reloading 9mm rounds first, and then .50ae.

    I spoke with someone at a gun show who told me that Wolf primers have a tendency to burn a little hot, and that he backs off his loads by 1 gr. Does anyone else have any experience with this? I'll be reloading 115 gr FMJ 9mm rounds and 300 gr FMJ .50ae. I'll be using Winchester 231 for 9mm and Winchester 296 for .50 ae. I searched around, and couldn't find any load data that specifically cited Wolf primers in conjunction with these rounds/powder.
  • #2
    Jonathan Doe

    I have never used Wolf pistol primers, but have tested large rifle primers. It performed superbly. I hope the pistol primers do so as well.

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    • #3
      tdc57
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 560

      Yes they are a little hotter than your standard primer, if you drop your gr count by (2 gr) IMO you'll be fine.. I use wolf primer for 223 and .40 SW all of the time; just adjust the gr count by 2gr.

      I have never had an issue with either load.

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      • #4
        BiggSean
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2009
        • 597

        How would you adjust the load on a .50ae round that calls for between 29 and 32.5 gr?

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        • #5
          scratch
          Member
          • Dec 2008
          • 122

          If 29 is the minimum stated, I would start there and check primers for pressure. If OK, I would move up in 0.5 increments for whatever accuracy your looking for. This is how I would approach it...YMMV.

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          • #6
            Fjold
            I need a LIFE!!
            • Oct 2005
            • 22905

            As long as you start your load development at the recommended starting load in your manual and work up in .2-.5 grain increments, watching for pressure signs, until you get the performance level that you want, you'll be fine
            Frank

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            • #7
              22popnsplat
              Senior Member
              • May 2008
              • 1042

              Originally posted by Fjold
              As long as you start your load development at the recommended starting load in your manual and work up in .2-.5 grain increments, watching for pressure signs, until you get the performance level that you want, you'll be fine
              I agree with Franks approach

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              • #8
                FieldsofFire
                Senior Member
                • Dec 2008
                • 1873

                So the consensus is to not drop charge solely in compensation of the Wolf primer but rather to just start at the minimum load numbers for a certain combination of powder and bullet weight?

                I'm in the same boat as you, OP, I have some Wolf primers I'll be using for the first time.

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                • #9
                  Leon75x55
                  Member
                  • Sep 2008
                  • 272

                  Wolf primers are great, been using them for years. If you are nervous, don't do max load.

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                  • #10
                    BiggSean
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2009
                    • 597

                    Since I'm new at re-loading, I've only been running starting loads thus far.

                    I don't want to make any mistakes with a round as potent as the .50ae.

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                    • #11
                      FLIGHT762
                      Veteran Member
                      • Mar 2009
                      • 3071

                      I got a few thousand of the L/R primers. I loaded about 80 rounds in target loads in the .308 Winchester.

                      Out of the 31 loads I fired yesterday, I got 2 FTF (duds). Primers were struck hard and even tried them in another rifle. I disassembled the rounds and punched out the primers. They looked normal(looked like they had an anvil). I weighed them with other unfired Wolf L/R primers and they weighed the same.

                      I never had this problem with US primers. I used them in my Remington 40 XBKS. This rifle has about 1400 rds. down the tube. Never had a FTF before.

                      No big deal. I'll keep using them,but a little disheartening the first time out trying them.

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                      • #12
                        Southpaw45
                        Senior Member
                        • Sep 2008
                        • 2333

                        I have used about 4000 wolf primers for my 45 Colt loads and another 1500 hundred for 45 ACP and everyone went "BANG". I did experience powder detonation problems with the 45 Colt loads when using Clays powder but never had a problem with Winchester primers with the same load. I always felt Win LP primers were hotter because they could be used with magnum loads.
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                        • #13
                          rksimple
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 6257

                          Originally posted by FLIGHT762
                          I got a few thousand of the L/R primers. I loaded about 80 rounds in target loads in the .308 Winchester.

                          Out of the 31 loads I fired yesterday, I got 2 FTF (duds). Primers were struck hard and even tried them in another rifle. I disassembled the rounds and punched out the primers. They looked normal(looked like they had an anvil). I weighed them with other unfired Wolf L/R primers and they weighed the same.

                          I never had this problem with US primers. I used them in my Remington 40 XBKS. This rifle has about 1400 rds. down the tube. Never had a FTF before.

                          No big deal. I'll keep using them,but a little disheartening the first time out trying them.
                          Wolf primers are slightly larger in diameter than most others. They seat pretty tightly. You need to really be sure you're seating them fully or they'll fail to ignite. I've gone through a few thousand already with no problems at all in 223, 308, and 260.
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                          • #14
                            5hundo
                            Banned
                            • Jun 2008
                            • 2210

                            Originally posted by tdc57
                            Yes they are a little hotter than your standard primer, if you drop your gr count by (2 gr) IMO you'll be fine.. I use wolf primer for 223 and .40 SW all of the time; just adjust the gr count by 2gr.

                            I have never had an issue with either load.
                            Let me get this straight; You reduce your loads by 2 grains when using wolf primers?!?!?

                            Are they that hot?

                            I'm about to start using some for .41 Mag with Unique, so I'd like to know if that's correct, or not. I bought the Wolf Large Pistol Magnum primers and now I'm a little leery of them...

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                            • #15
                              rksimple
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 6257

                              I've found the LR primers to be about the same as 210m's...not as hot as Winchester LR's.
                              GAP Team Shooter 5

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