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  • cz74
    Senior Member
    • May 2020
    • 912

    Powder Drying Up Again?

    Don't need any, but someone on Reddit was saying prices are crazy again, just checked Powder Valley, holy! I got some exactly 2 years ago and it almost doubled now! Out of stock most of them. Government stockpiling? Exporting to Ukraine or Israel? All powder went to fighting Houthis? What happened! Worse than even during Covid.
  • #2
    kcheung2
    Veteran Member
    • Aug 2012
    • 4387

    You just now noticed?
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    "There is no "best." If there was, everyone here would own that one, and no other." - DSB

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    • #3
      sirgrumps
      Senior Member
      • Apr 2009
      • 2493

      There is a world wide shortage of nitro-cellulose, which is one of the primary components of gunpowder.

      You add the strain of the supply chain for make 155mm shell for the military, since we are sending TONNES of them to Ukraine.
      ?The constitutional right to bear arms in public for self-defense is not a ?second-class right,? subject to an entirely different body of rules than the other Bill of Rights guarantees.? ?.. "We know of no other constitutional rights that an individual may exercise only after demonstrating to government officers some special need."
      - Justice Clarence Thomas

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      • #4
        cz74
        Senior Member
        • May 2020
        • 912

        Ammoseek shows no availability for most of the popular IMR powders: 4198, 4895, 4064. IMR 3031 is $55/lb before shipping/tax/hazmat.

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        • #5
          divingin
          Veteran Member
          • Jul 2015
          • 2522

          Most manufacturers raised prices earlier this year (anywhere from 20 to nearly 50%.) They announced it well before it happened.

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          • #6
            ar15robert
            Senior Member
            • Sep 2002
            • 2399

            Plenty available near me at local places but price is higher. Heck even ar plus I was getting for 25 a pound is up to 37 bucks now. I should have bought more than 4 when I did. Got a couple 335 for 31 then too.

            But we all showed what we would pay when flippers were making a few bucks on it just a while back.

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            • #7
              bigbossman
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Dec 2012
              • 10826

              Around here certain powders are always on the shelf, while others haven't been in stock for years. Prices are averaging about $46/lb for those that are available.
              Always looking for vintage Winchester and Marlin lever action rifles. Looking to sell? Know of one for sale? Drop me a line!

              "Give a conservative a pile of bricks and you get a beautiful city. Give a leftist a city and you get a pile of bricks."

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              • #8
                Elgatodeacero
                Senior Member
                • Apr 2015
                • 1279

                I received an email from Hodgdon yesterday with a $20 off offer on a $150 purchase, and their prices were as good as I have seen anywhere and the discount is automatically applied to shopping cart which was a bonus.

                “Save $20 on orders of $150 or more and hit the bench this Spring Break with this limited time offer. March 11–15 only. No promo code needed. Discount automatically applied at checkout.
                Shop Now”

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                • #9
                  Yetiultimate
                  Member
                  • Feb 2016
                  • 225

                  Originally posted by Elgatodeacero
                  I received an email from Hodgdon yesterday with a $20 off offer on a $150 purchase, and their prices were as good as I have seen anywhere and the discount is automatically applied to shopping cart which was a bonus.

                  ?Save $20 on orders of $150 or more and hit the bench this Spring Break with this limited time offer. March 11?15 only. No promo code needed. Discount automatically applied at checkout.
                  Shop Now?
                  LOL, and now they want $70 for a pound of 4350 or $65 for a pound of Varget? Ok Hodgdon, you do you. Clowns.

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                  • #10
                    bigbossman
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Dec 2012
                    • 10826

                    Went to the local store this morning. 4198 was $46/lb last week, now it is $66/lb.

                    Ouch.
                    Always looking for vintage Winchester and Marlin lever action rifles. Looking to sell? Know of one for sale? Drop me a line!

                    "Give a conservative a pile of bricks and you get a beautiful city. Give a leftist a city and you get a pile of bricks."

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                    • #11
                      wild_weasel
                      Senior Member
                      • Dec 2008
                      • 1256

                      Don't get me started on the availability and cost of primers...
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                      • #12
                        bhilliker@comcast.net
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 609

                        At the height of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq we were consuming 70 million rounds of small arms ammunitions. Thats not including all the heavy munitions for the Army Marines Air Force combined. We did not have a shortage on the home front and prices were low. The Ukraine and Israel conflicts are not the problem.

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                        • #13
                          XDJYo
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Apr 2012
                          • 6145

                          Dang! So glad I stocked up way back. Still have about 5 lbs of Bullseye left and 10k primers. This will last me forever at the current rate of shooting. Haven?t been shooting at all the last two years. Prior to, I was burning thru 300-400 rounds a session.


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                          • #14
                            cz74
                            Senior Member
                            • May 2020
                            • 912

                            Originally posted by bhilliker@comcast.net
                            At the height of the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq we were consuming 70 million rounds of small arms ammunitions. Thats not including all the heavy munitions for the Army Marines Air Force combined. We did not have a shortage on the home front and prices were low. The Ukraine and Israel conflicts are not the problem.
                            That's very interesting isn't it? I'm thinking there must be a coordinated well schemed hoarding, holding back raw materials so the global supply is affected and downstream effects on ammunition, primers, powders, etc.

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                            • #15
                              Shab21
                              Member
                              • Apr 2013
                              • 291

                              This has nothing to do with supply chain and has everything to do with a few corporate companies coming together and creating a monopoly on price. They lost a lot of money when Trump took over and they are going to make that 10 times fold. This is all price manipulation and profits driven. Just go look at these companies and how much money they make off their margins it?s through the roof.

                              This is not only happening in ammo or reloading supplies. It?s happening all over the place. You have a small group of companies owning products in a certain sector and colluding to drive up the price to increase corporate profits, this has nothing to do with supplying demand and everything to do with Collusion.

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