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  • #76
    Antihero47
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2009
    • 1312

    Bah!!

    Got all my toys in today (rcbs lube die, corncob, super swager) and 3k brass to decap, resize, trim, swage.

    About 300-400 rounds in the decapping rod on the lube die got bent and started destroying brass. Now I need to call RCBS to get another one or a couple more. I tried to use the lube die without the decapping rod but it doesn't seem like lube is getting on the cases anymore.
    Last edited by Antihero47; 06-14-2010, 11:47 PM.

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    • #77
      joelogic
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2008
      • 6593

      Genius, I have been messing with locktite on my .223 trim die for a while now because there are not enough threads on top. I am going to be putting a nut on the bottom side first thing tomorrow.


      Originally posted by ar15barrels
      I put the locknut on the underside of the toolhead.
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      • #78
        Antihero47
        Senior Member
        • Jan 2009
        • 1312

        Just called RCBS, they are sending out 2 new stem assemblies and extra pins today not even a two minute phone call. I love RCBS and Dillon customer support. For Free.
        Last edited by Antihero47; 06-15-2010, 10:34 AM.

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        • #79
          joelogic
          Calguns Addict
          • May 2008
          • 6593

          I might have to switch to a lubing die because I am getting tried on cleaning the casefeeder and the feeder tube.
          Any lessons learned?
          Just buy a die and some lube?
          Run a reservoir like Randall?
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          • #80
            Antihero47
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2009
            • 1312

            When it worked it was GREAT. I have not used it enough to really need the reservoir however. Pretty much purchase the RCBS Lube die (#1 for .223) and it comes with some RCBS lube that works really well. I read that some people use the cable pulling jell and it works really well also. The fact that it decaps is a plus.

            Just be sure to get enough lube in there, you kinda of have to use trial and error to get enough to soak the pads inside. It takes about 15-30 minutes to see if the pads get soaked. Put a very light film of lube that was perfect for sizing and doesn't get all over the place.
            Last edited by Antihero47; 06-15-2010, 10:32 AM.

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            • #81
              ar15barrels
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2006
              • 57117

              Originally posted by joelogic
              I am getting tried on cleaning the casefeeder and the feeder tube.
              Any lessons learned?
              Sounds like you learned that a dry/clean casefeeder is the way to go...
              Randall Rausch

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              • #82
                JC Smith
                CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                CGN Contributor
                • May 2006
                • 306

                Originally posted by joelogic
                I might have to switch to a lubing die because I am getting tried on cleaning the casefeeder and the feeder tube.
                Any lessons learned?
                Just buy a die and some lube?
                Run a reservoir like Randall?
                Just a suggestion. You might disassemble the lube die and check to be sure it's clean inside before you start processing the brass. I still haven't figured out where the contamination came from that scratched the inside of my size/trim die but the lube die is a possibility.
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                • #83
                  mstlaurent
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2007
                  • 1408

                  Originally posted by joelogic
                  I might have to switch to a lubing die because I am getting tried on cleaning the casefeeder and the feeder tube.
                  Any lessons learned?
                  Just buy a die and some lube?
                  Run a reservoir like Randall?
                  This is one thing I really like about the Hornady bushing system. Pulling the lube die out and refilling it takes like 30 seconds. 60 degree twist, pull the die out, lift the sleeve, squeeze the lube in, sleeve down, drop the die in, another 60 degree twist, done. When I first bought the lube die I was trying to figure out a way to put a reservoir on it like Randall did, but after I used it for a couple hundred rounds I decided that would be more trouble than it was worth.

                  That said, the efforts I did put into creating a reservoir centered around trying to modify a saddle valve to fit on the die body. (http://www.lowes.com/pd_68587-104-LF...ductId=3134961) You can find them in the tubing and fitting section at Lowes or Home Depot. You might start there.
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                  • #84
                    Fyathyrio
                    Senior Member
                    • Nov 2009
                    • 1082

                    "Everything I ever learned about leadership, I learned from a Chief Petty Officer." - John McCain
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                    • #85
                      ar15barrels
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2006
                      • 57117

                      Originally posted by Fyathyrio
                      Randall, I appreciate your patience with me, I’m currently deployed and it’s kind of difficult to do research. I'm getting ready to place my remaining equipment orders, but still have a couple of questions for clarification...

                      I will be following your method for both 5.56 and 7.62 AR platforms, so full length resize and crimp will be required.

                      Since I'm doing two calibers, do you recommend a universal deprimer for sta 1 before the Dillon resize/trim station? If so, do you have a preference?

                      When reloading, you are using a 22-250 die to expand the neck without working the rest of the brass, can the Dillon size/decap dies for both calibers be raised enough to allow the same benefit while still sizing the neck so I don't have to lube cases again after the earlier resize and trim steps? If not, what die would you recommend to do the same with 7.62 as you are with the 5.56?

                      Thanks,
                      Mark
                      If I wrote this thread again, I would just say to use a Lyman M die as one of the two supporting dies in the trimming toolhead.
                      Then you don't need to worry about expanding the necks during the loading process.
                      I use an RCBS decapping die, but any decapping die would work just fine.
                      Randall Rausch

                      AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                      Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                      Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                      Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                      Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                      • #86
                        Fyathyrio
                        Senior Member
                        • Nov 2009
                        • 1082

                        OK, just to clarify...

                        Universal decap station 1.

                        Dillon trimmer station 3.

                        Lyman M die station 5, get appropriate sizes.

                        This is gonna make it almost too easy to reload rifle blasting ammo! Thanks for the M die tip! I owe ya a beer!
                        "Everything I ever learned about leadership, I learned from a Chief Petty Officer." - John McCain
                        "Use your hammer, not your mouth, jackass!" - Mike Ditka
                        There has never been a shortage of people eager to draw up blueprints for running other people's lives. - Thomas Sowell
                        Originally posted by James Earl Jones
                        The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose.

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                        • #87
                          ar15barrels
                          I need a LIFE!!
                          • Jan 2006
                          • 57117

                          Originally posted by Fyathyrio
                          OK, just to clarify...

                          Universal decap station 1.

                          Dillon trimmer station 3.

                          Lyman M die station 5, get appropriate sizes.

                          This is gonna make it almost too easy to reload rifle blasting ammo! Thanks for the M die tip! I owe ya a beer!
                          I use an RCBS lube die in station 1 that's been modified to increase lube capacity.
                          The lube die also decaps.
                          If you lube the cases before they go in the casefeeder, all you need is a regular decapping die.
                          Randall Rausch

                          AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                          Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                          Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                          Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                          Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                          • #88
                            Fyathyrio
                            Senior Member
                            • Nov 2009
                            • 1082

                            OK, brain cramp on my part, stayed up late (in my part of the world) to get a decent connection speed.

                            RCBS lube die
                            trimmer
                            Lyman M die...gottit!

                            Then tumble to clean the lube off, then reload, then shoot zombies. Repeat often!

                            Thanks again!
                            "Everything I ever learned about leadership, I learned from a Chief Petty Officer." - John McCain
                            "Use your hammer, not your mouth, jackass!" - Mike Ditka
                            There has never been a shortage of people eager to draw up blueprints for running other people's lives. - Thomas Sowell
                            Originally posted by James Earl Jones
                            The world is filled with violence. Because criminals carry guns, we decent law-abiding citizens should also have guns. Otherwise they will win and the decent people will lose.

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                            • #89
                              ar15barrels
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2006
                              • 57117

                              I have good news for all the people that have asked me about my lube die conversion...
                              I finally picked up a bunch of hardware and can now offer a do-it-yourself kit to dramatically increase the lube volume as well as make it easy to see when you are getting low before you actually run out.
                              The kit has a separate clear lube reservoir that you mount on the case feed support and then tubing and fittings to get the lube to the lube die.
                              All that is required is to tap the lube die 10-32 and then screw in the fittings and tie-wrap the reservoir to the case feeder support.
                              Randall Rausch

                              AR work: www.ar15barrels.com
                              Bolt actions: www.700barrels.com
                              Foreign Semi Autos: www.akbarrels.com
                              Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
                              Most work performed while-you-wait.

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                              • #90
                                diver160651
                                Senior Member
                                • Feb 2012
                                • 1764

                                Originally posted by ar15barrels
                                I have good news for all the people that have asked me about my lube die conversion...
                                I finally picked up a bunch of hardware and can now offer a do-it-yourself kit to dramatically increase the lube volume as well as make it easy to see when you are getting low before you actually run out.
                                The kit has a separate clear lube reservoir that you mount on the case feed support and then tubing and fittings to get the lube to the lube die.
                                All that is required is to tap the lube die 10-32 and then screw in the fittings and tie-wrap the reservoir to the case feeder support.
                                How much?


                                Jt

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                                Last edited by diver160651; 05-31-2013, 6:59 PM.
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