Bayou bullets

[Hoons]

I've ordered some 230gr 45acp and was having failure to feed because of the lead shavings. I switched to lyman m-die and it helped but still will not fully chamber round occasionally. I'm using hornady's load data for lead bullets. Anyone have better luck than me with these bullets?

[tabascoz28]

Are the shavings coming from the reloading phase of your seater or somewhere else? I know these coated bullets, you have to flare just a tad bit more than usual or you'll get shavings.

Also, does it do good in the plunk test?

My Lee setup has a 4th station that crimps pretty good.

[Hoons]

Shavings are from seating phase if the case doesn't get flared enough. If I flare too much, brass case encounters too much resistance in the seating die it seems.

[Hoons]

Most pass the plunk test

[eaglemike]

You need to flare enough it doesn't shave. Do you have a 3 die setup, or a 4 die? If you can flare, then powder, then seat, then crimp, that is best. You can seat and crimp with the same die. Older die sets/reloaders did this. It's easier to do with a 4 die set though.
Not sure why there would be a lot of seating pressure with adequate flare, unless maybe the die body needs to be adjusted higher and then the seating punch lower.

[tabascoz28]

Yeah, I'd rather have FMJ but my wallet likes coated. So I put up with the slightly more flare and still sometimes I do mess up the settings.

[justMike]

R-P brass is known to be thinner than most. Might see if those are easier to work with. Some prefer it for cast bullet loads.

[Hoons]

I have the 3-die rcbs set. What crimping die do you recommend?

[TomReloaded]

Bayous are fat in 9mm and 45. You need to seat them deep. If you're using a normal 1.25" oal, that'll definitely do it. My gun feeds almost any 230gr ball out to 1.260, but bayous need about 1.225", and then i get nose dives on occasion.

I had to give up on the brand. I could throat and fix the guns, or just change brands.

Also... Their coating is terrible and rough. They're just old profile, poorly made bullets.

[Snoopy47]

You'll need more flare on the case, and you'll need to seat them shorter.

For example, my 115gn Bayou bullets in 9mm are an OAL of 1.10 for them to work in the Glock 17.

[bohoki]

there is two ways to get shaving 1 not enough belling and 2 too much crimp on a seat and crimp die

does your seat die crimp?

[tabascoz28]

You'll need more flare on the case, and you'll need to seat them shorter.

For example, my 115gn Bayou bullets in 9mm are an OAL of 1.10 for them to work in the Glock 17.

I've been using less powder too my, glock 19 has my reloads at 1.09.

[eaglemike]

You'll need more flare on the case, and you'll need to seat them shorter.

For example, my 115gn Bayou bullets in 9mm are an OAL of 1.10 for them to work in the Glock 17.

Not sure why you are saying to seat them shorter.
He's loading .45acp. Referencing 9mm length is a very bad thing in this case. Length has nothing to do with lead shaving.
The case needs to be flared enough the bullet can sit on the case mouth, that's old school rule of thumb starting point to lead bullets. Then it's pushed into the case with a seating die. Then crimped. If done correctly, no shaving.
OP, in your case I'd get a Lee factory crimp die. The crimp is easy to adjust. I know there's a lot of naysayers out there, but I've used them, and a lot of people I know use them. One can hold the X-ring of a D1 target at 50 yards with a wheelgun shooting double action on the clock if the shooter is capable. That is likely good enough.

[TomReloaded]

He switched dies and also has chambering issues.

[ar15barrels]

I have the 3-die rcbs set. What crimping die do you recommend?

Are you loading on a progressive or a single stage?
If you are loading on a single stage, re-adjust your seating die to ONLY seat and then run the rounds through again with the die set to ONLY crimp.
This will preclude the crimped cases digging into the side of the bullet while the bullet is still being seated.
That could be a cause of your issues.

If you are loading on a progressive press, you will need another die.
Redding sells a crimp die or you can get another RCBS seat/crimp die and adjust the seating station to only seat and then put the 2nd seat/crimp die in the last station and adjust it to only crimp.

If your chambering problem is related to bullet diameter, you may need to re-throat the barrel larger to fit the larger bullets.