Shoot it or pull it down?

[Jeremy2171]

The reloading parameters for the M1 Garand are well known and have been for decades. The fact that you don't believe the facts does not make them untrue.

https://www.shootingtimes.com/editor...-garand/452071

Linking to poorly written articles by people who don't really know what they are talking about doesn't help your case .

The rifle was designed for ball, m1 a174grn FMJ at 2700fps.... That's fact...not opinion.

[bigbossman]

Safe to use in the garand as pretty much all ammo is safe.

The rifle was designed for ball, m1 a174grn FMJ at 2700fps.... That's fact...not opinion.

Your 1st post intimates that "all 30-06 ammo is safe for a Garand". Your second post pretty much agrees with what others have been saying. Of course it was designed around M1 ball.

Here's a question for you -if pretty much all ammo is safe, whey do component manufacturers publish specific and separate data for service rifles? Are they guilty of poor writing skills and ignorance as well?

Not all commercial ammo is safe for a Garand. That's a fact. Not all powder burn rates are suitable for a Garand, that's also a fact.

[TKM]

Linking to poorly written articles by people who don't really know what they are talking about doesn't help your case .

The rifle was designed for ball, m1 a174grn FMJ at 2700fps.... That's fact...not opinion.

Your join date and general all around attitude leads me to believe that you were very recently banned. Brett is that you?

[Jeremy2171]

Your 1st post intimates that "all 30-06 ammo is safe for a Garand". Your second post pretty much agrees with what others have been saying. Of course it was designed around M1 ball.

Here's a question for you -if pretty much all ammo is safe, whey do component manufacturers publish specific and separate data for service rifles? Are they guilty of poor writing skills and ignorance as well?

Not all commercial ammo is safe for a Garand. That's a fact. Not all powder burn rates are suitable for a Garand, that's also a fact.

M1 ball is not M2 ball... they are different.

Manufacturers publish moderate loads because people including reloaders are stupid and will do stupid things. They don't waste much time running all their powder's through a lab just to make garand data.


Please list what commercial ammo is unsafe for the garand.

[Jeremy2171]

Your join date and general all around attitude leads me to believe that you were very recently banned. Brett is that you?

No clue what you are talking about

[NapalmCheese]

I mean the gun was designed for .276 Pederson really....

[bigbossman]

M1 ball is not M2 ball... they are different.

I don't recall ever saying it was?

Manufacturers publish moderate loads because people including reloaders are stupid and will do stupid things. They don't waste much time running all their powder's through a lab just to make garand data.

As a general statement, sure. But specifically, they publish separate Garand data because the Garand has specific requirements. They do, in fact, run lab tests for their components in regards to the Garand. Of course, you could actually call them like I did and actually talk to their techs.

Perhaps they were lying to me, perhaps they are lazy and ignorant. Perhaps they are not the authoritative source on their own components and data.

[Ned Ryerson]

Not all commercial ammo is safe for a Garand. That's a fact. Not all powder burn rates are suitable for a Garand, that's also a fact.

If you add a ported gas plug, you can safely shoot any commercial ammo you want: https://www.garandgear.com/product/ported-gas-plug/

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[Jeremy2171]

I mean the gun was designed for .276 Pederson really....

Started off in 30cal...then to .276 then back to 30cal.

[Jeremy2171]

I don't recall ever saying it was?



As a general statement, sure. But specifically, they publish separate Garand data because the Garand has specific requirements. They do, in fact, run lab tests for their components in regards to the Garand. Of course, you could actually call them like I did and actually talk to their techs.

Perhaps they were lying to me, perhaps they are lazy and ignorant. Perhaps they are not the authoritative source on their own components and data.

Your linked articles stated it was designed for M2 ball....

Why don't you post those specific requirements for the garand?

[Jeremy2171]

If you add a ported gas plug, you can safely shoot any commercial ammo you want: https://www.garandgear.com/product/ported-gas-plug/

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You can already do that... PS it's not a plug...it's a gas cylinder lock screw.

[bigbossman]

Your linked articles stated it was designed for M2 ball....

Don't think so.

Answer the question - do the component manufacturers list separate data for no good reason? Call and ask, like I did.

Stop arguing in circles.

Look, if you have a Garand and wanna beat it up with commercial ammo, have at it. It's your rifle. But unless you can link to an authoritative source that backs up your claim that all commercial ammo is OK in a Garand, then you haven't made your case. You made the claim - back it up. Hornady and Hodgdon both say otherwise. They make the powder, they make the bullets. Don't take my word for it - call them as I did.

Let's see - trust the component manufacturer's technical opinions, or take the word of some random internet expert. Tough choice.

[Jeremy2171]

Don't think so.

Answer the question - do the component manufacturers list separate data for no good reason? Call and ask, like I did.

Stop arguing in circles.

Look, if you have a Garand and wanna beat it up with commercial ammo, have at it. It's your rifle. But unless you can link to an authoritative source that backs up your claim that all commercial ammo is OK in a Garand, then you haven't made your case. You made the claim - back it up. Hornady and Hodgdon both say otherwise. They make the powder, they make the bullets. Don't take my word for it - call them as I did.

Let's see - trust the component manufacturer's technical opinions, or take the word of some random internet expert. Tough choice.

You going to post the garand requirements or not?

[bigbossman]

You going to post the garand requirements or not?

You made a claim, substantiate it. I already verified my position by speaking with Hodgdon and Hornady. Believe them, or don't. I don't really care.

[Jeremy2171]

You made a claim, substantiate it. I already verified my position by speaking with Hodgdon and Hornady. Believe them, or don't. I don't really care.

No you made a claim it has specific requirements....what are they..