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  • BigBronco
    Calguns Addict
    • Jul 2009
    • 7076

    Shoot it or pull it down?

    Today I was given a hundred rounds of mostly Denver ordanance and Lake city M2 ball 30-06 date mark is 42 or 1942 mfg.. Still in the original boxes. So pull it down or is it safe to run through a Garand? Are the primers corrosive?

    What say you?
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  • #2
    Duck Killer
    Senior Member
    • Dec 2010
    • 2398

    It is corrosive. Safe to run through garand. If it is in original boxes it is worth more as collectors item. I would either save or sell.

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    • #3
      Divernhunter
      Calguns Addict
      • May 2010
      • 8753

      If it were mine I would hold on to it or sell it to a collector.
      IF I were to want to shoot it I would pull it down and transfer the powder/bullet to a case with a non-corrosive primer then shoot it. Just nee one extra case and pull it down one at a trime and punch out the ols primer and replace it with new.
      I have done this many times
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      • #4
        Jeremy2171
        Junior Member
        • Sep 2022
        • 59

        Originally posted by BigBronco
        Today I was given a hundred rounds of mostly Denver ordanance and Lake city M2 ball 30-06 date mark is 42 or 1942 mfg.. Still in the original boxes. So pull it down or is it safe to run through a Garand? Are the primers corrosive?

        What say you?
        Corrosive primers.

        Safe to use in the garand as pretty much all ammo is safe.

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        • #5
          bigbossman
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Dec 2012
          • 11195

          Originally posted by Divernhunter
          If it were mine I would hold on to it or sell it to a collector.
          IF I were to want to shoot it I would pull it down and transfer the powder/bullet to a case with a non-corrosive primer then shoot it. Just nee one extra case and pull it down one at a trime and punch out the ols primer and replace it with new.
          I have done this many times
          We did this all the time when making faux match rounds for service rifle competitions. Small variation though.... pull about 5 or 6 rounds, weigh each charge, than get the average. Pull all the rest, put the powder in your powder measure, and set the measure to the average. Either reuse the original brass after punching out the old primers and replacing them with new, or just use newer cases. reuse the bullet, or if you want to get really fancy replace with a new HPBT match bullet of the same weight.
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          • #6
            JagerDog
            I need a LIFE!!
            • May 2011
            • 15227

            Originally posted by bigbossman
            We did this all the time when making faux match rounds for service rifle competitions. Small variation though.... pull about 5 or 6 rounds, weigh each charge, than get the average. Pull all the rest, put the powder in your powder measure, and set the measure to the average. Either reuse the original brass after punching out the old primers and replacing them with new, or just use newer cases. reuse the bullet, or if you want to get really fancy replace with a new HPBT match bullet of the same weight.
            Problem I can imagine is if ammo isn't all from the same lot. There could've been a propellant change?
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            • #7
              Ned Ryerson
              Member
              • Jan 2021
              • 135

              Unless you want to save it as a collector's item, I would shoot it as-is out of your M1 and then clean your rifle afterwards. There's nothing like experiencing the real thing!
              Bing!

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              • #8
                fguffey
                Senior Member
                • Mar 2010
                • 1408



                F. Guffey

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                • #9
                  Spyder
                  CGN Contributor
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 17166

                  Shoot and clean the rifle after. All the break down and reload sounds like a whole lot of wasted time.

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                  • #10
                    TKM
                    Onward through the fog!
                    CGN Contributor
                    • Jul 2002
                    • 10657

                    Originally posted by Jeremy2171
                    Corrosive primers.

                    Safe to use in the garand as pretty much all ammo is safe.
                    This is WRONG! Do your due diligence.

                    Commercial ammo can bend the op rod.

                    The Garand is designed to use a very narrow band of power from the 30-06 M2 cartridge.

                    The corrosive part is easily dealt with by cleaning thoroughly...

                    You are gonna clean it anyway, why not just blast away?
                    It's not PTSD, it's nostalgia.

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                    • #11
                      Jeremy2171
                      Junior Member
                      • Sep 2022
                      • 59

                      Originally posted by TKM
                      This is WRONG! Do your due diligence.

                      Commercial ammo can bend the op rod.

                      The Garand is designed to use a very narrow band of power from the 30-06 M2 cartridge.

                      The corrosive part is easily dealt with by cleaning thoroughly...

                      You are gonna clean it anyway, why not just blast away?
                      Sorry but you are wrong...I've done my due diligence.

                      You are repeating the false claim that you can only use M2 ball...or some odd claim about similar power ammo. The garand was designed for M1 ball...174gr FMJ at 2700fps. M2 didn't come around until after the garand was in service.

                      Feel free to show us where an oprod bends and how that exactly happens...

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                      • #12
                        saki302
                        Calguns Addict
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 7187

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                        • #13
                          TKM
                          Onward through the fog!
                          CGN Contributor
                          • Jul 2002
                          • 10657

                          CMP has issued a warning regarding shooting certain ammunition out of these older rifles which can lead to damage or catastrophic failure.
                          It's not PTSD, it's nostalgia.

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                          • #14
                            Jeremy2171
                            Junior Member
                            • Sep 2022
                            • 59

                            Thanks for linking to an article that shows the CMP says commercial ammo is fine..but it's written by someone who doesn't know much about the rifle.

                            By the way...you didn't answer my question.

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                            • #15
                              bigbossman
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Dec 2012
                              • 11195

                              Originally posted by Jeremy2171
                              Sorry but you are wrong...I've done my due diligence.

                              You are repeating the false claim that you can only use M2 ball...or some odd claim about similar power ammo. The garand was designed for M1 ball...174gr FMJ at 2700fps. M2 didn't come around until after the garand was in service.

                              Feel free to show us where an oprod bends and how that exactly happens...
                              The reloading parameters for the M1 Garand are well known and have been for decades. The fact that you don't believe the facts does not make them untrue.

                              These handloading tips will help you avoid excess wear and tear and potential damage to your M1 Garand.





                              Last edited by bigbossman; 09-17-2022, 9:56 PM.
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