.50AE Recipes

[aeronaut]

Attached is .50AE data from Lee's Reloading 2nd Ed. I have an option to buy an 8 gallon jug of H110 and 300gr bullets. The problem is, neither are compatible with eachother. Can I reduce the H110 when using a 300gr bullet, or should H110 be reserved for 325gr bullets?

[xfer42]

It would be more powder. The issue is that its a slow powder, and ideal for heavier bullets. What bullet are you considering?

Im showing ~31gr of H110 with a Hornady XTP (50101) @ 1.575 COL looks good in QuickLoad.

[aeronaut]

It would be more powder. The issue is that its a slow powder, and ideal for heavier bullets. What bullet are you considering?

Im showing ~31gr of H110 with a Hornady XTP (50101) @ 1.575 COL looks good in QuickLoad.

Berry's jacketed 300gr

[CCrawford]

Speer 15th Ed. on page 901 lists H110, 33.5 grains min at 1482 fps to 34.5 max at 1510 fps for 300 gr. They are loading for their TMJ FN #4490 and DCHP #4493 300 gr bullets. They also have data for VV N110, 2400, No. 9, and 4227. COAL listed at 1.580", Speer brass, CCI 350 primer.

Hornady 11th Ed. on page 965 loads H110 with their 300 gr. XTP #50101 from 27.7 gr. min at 1200 fps to 33.7 max at 1450 fps. Primer is WLP, Starline brass, COAL 1.580".

Also, I believe Berry's are plated, not jacketed. There is a loading difference. If you are referring to the plated, reduce the loads some, as plated does not have the higher friction of jacketed.

Criss

[ar15barrels]

Attached is .50AE data from Lee's Reloading 2nd Ed. I have an option to buy an 8 gallon jug of H110 and 300gr bullets. The problem is, neither are compatible with eachother. Can I reduce the H110 when using a 300gr bullet, or should H110 be reserved for 325gr bullets?

your 300gr plated bullet shoul generate lower pressures than the speer TMJ I modeled in Quickload.
This is NOT tested data.
It's merely a simulation.
The case fills are probably the reason that Lee didn't list it in the manual.

Cartridge          : .50 A.E. (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .500, 300, Speer TMJ 50AE 4490
Useable Case Capaci: 29.064 grain H2O = 1.887 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.575 inch = 40.01 mm
Barrel Length      : 6.0 inch = 152.4 mm
Powder             : Hodgdon H110

Predicted data by increasing and decreasing the given charge,
incremented in steps of 0.662% of nominal charge.
CAUTION: Figures exceed maximum and minimum recommended loads !

Step    Fill. Charge   Vel.  Energy   Pmax   Pmuz  Prop.Burnt B_Time
 %       %    Grains   fps   ft.lbs    psi    psi      %        ms

-06.6   98    28.20   1230    1007   23925   6340     67.4    0.660
-06.0   99    28.40   1241    1026   24512   6422     67.9    0.652
-05.3  100    28.60   1252    1045   25115   6505     68.4    0.645
-04.6  100    28.80   1264    1064   25735   6587     68.9    0.637
-04.0  101    29.00   1275    1083   26369   6670     69.4    0.630
-03.3  102    29.20   1287    1103   27028   6753     69.9    0.623
-02.6  102    29.40   1299    1123   27704   6835     70.4    0.616
-02.0  103    29.60   1310    1143   28397   6918     70.9    0.609
-01.3  104    29.80   1322    1164   29112   7001     71.4    0.602
-00.7  104    30.00   1334    1185   29848   7083     71.9    0.595  ! Near Maximum !
+00.0  105    30.20   1346    1206   30606   7166     72.4    0.588  ! Near Maximum !
+00.7  106    30.40   1357    1227   31377   7248     72.9    0.581  ! Near Maximum !
+01.3  106    30.60   1369    1249   32188   7331     73.4    0.574  ! Near Maximum !
+02.0  107    30.80   1381    1271   33016   7413     73.9    0.568  ! Near Maximum !
+02.6  108    31.00   1394    1294   33868   7495     74.4    0.561  ! Near Maximum !
+03.3  109    31.20   1406    1316   34744   7577     74.9    0.555  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

Results caused by ± 3% powder lot-to-lot burning rate variation using nominal charge
Data for burning rate increased by 3% relative to nominal value:
+Ba    105    30.20   1383    1273   32957   7431     75.5    0.569  ! Near Maximum !
Data for burning rate decreased by 3% relative to nominal value:
-Ba    105    30.20   1307    1138   28383   6882     69.2    0.608

Here are your top velocity powders with a 300gr speer:

Cartridge          : .50 A.E. (SAAMI)
Bullet             : .500, 300, Speer TMJ 50AE 4490
Useable Case Capaci: 29.064 grain H2O = 1.887 cm³
Cartridge O.A.L. L6: 1.575 inch = 40.01 mm
Barrel Length      : 6.0 inch = 152.4 mm

Predicted Data for Indicated Charges of the Following Powders.
Matching Maximum Pressure: 35000 psi, or 241 MPa
or a maximum loading ratio or filling of 102 %
These calculations refer to your specified settings in QuickLOAD 'Cartridge Dimensions' window.
C A U T I O N : any load listed can result in a powder charge that falls below minimum suggested
loads or exceeds maximum suggested loads as presented in current handloading manuals. Understand
that all of the listed powders can be unsuitable for the given combination of cartridge, bullet
and gun. Actual load order can vary, depending upon lot-to-lot powder and component variations.
USE ONLY FOR COMPARISON !

36 loads produced a Loading Ratio below user-defined minimum of 80%. These powders have been skipped.
Powder type          Filling/Loading Ratio  Charge    Charge   Vel. Prop.Burnt P max  P muzz  B_Time
                                      %     Grains    Gramm   fps     %       psi     psi    ms
---------------------------------  -----------------------------------------------------------------
Norma R123                         100.3     26.9     1.74    1503    98.0    35000    8635   0.556  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Ramshot Enforcer                    98.5     27.0     1.75    1408    84.2    35000    7377   0.554  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N105 *C                 102.0     21.4     1.39    1404    98.0    33968    6811   0.557  ! Near Maximum !
Alliant 2400                        97.9     24.9     1.61    1394    82.9    35000    7199   0.558  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant POWER PISTOL                81.3     17.3     1.12    1376    98.4    35000    6457   0.556  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant BLUE DOT                   100.1     21.8     1.42    1375    90.9    35000    6757   0.560  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate 4100                      100.8     27.9     1.81    1374    78.7    35000    6892   0.556  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Shooters World Heavy Pistol         85.1     24.4     1.58    1372    86.0    35000    6773   0.558  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate No.9                       85.9     24.4     1.58    1372    86.0    35000    6773   0.558  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Accurate TCM                        85.8     23.7     1.54    1369    87.5    35000    6683   0.558  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori 3N38                     95.1     20.8     1.35    1361    95.0    35000    6315   0.560  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori 3N37                     82.6     17.1     1.11    1316   100.0    35000    5219   0.566  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Vihtavuori N350                     85.6     16.7     1.08    1309   100.0    35000    5085   0.564  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!
Alliant HERCO                       92.8     15.6     1.01    1306   100.0    35000    5055   0.573  !DANGEROUS LOAD-DO NOT USE!

[stilly]

Attached is .50AE data from Lee's Reloading 2nd Ed. I have an option to buy an 8 gallon jug of H110 and 300gr bullets. The problem is, neither are compatible with eachother. Can I reduce the H110 when using a 300gr bullet, or should H110 be reserved for 325gr bullets?

Or perhaps you might consider getting a .44 mag barrel and casting 200gr bullets you can PC and shoot a lot more...

I know, I just became one of THOSE guys...

I just picked up my 50 AE barrel and I already sent it out to get cerakoted. Looking at the availability of load data for .50 AE is not very exciting. I can see I gotta make my own and thankfully I already have pills ready to PC and pills that are already PC and ready to load in about 300 gr...