AREA 419 Zero Press

[stilly]

It looks really cute and all, but I wonder how the Lee Classic Cast measures up to it.

For the price, It BETTER do-Oh, does not look like it can really do swaging. Yeah no funny dies on this press, although it DOES look very pretty.

How long has the company been in business for and how is their customer service? This might be a fun press to buy just to play with. Don't think I can do anything really except maybe use it to size some pills and maybe load a caliber at the same time.

[19K]

I've been using mine for about a month now, had a CO-AX and Rock Chucker before, and there is no comparison. Resizing and seating bullets is more consistent, and I have easily shaved off at least a third of the time that I normally spend reloading.

You went from a single stage to a turret press. I would be shocked if you DIDNT shave at least a 1/3 of the amount of time.

I was cranking out a completed round in a turret press (size, prime, powder, seat, and crimp) in about 15-20 seconds.

[mikeyr]

I have been tempted to sell several of my presses for this one. I have 3 Dillon Square Deals in different calibers and also Rock Chucker. I use the Rock Chucker for .308win only now and since I got a Dillon 650 I have not used the Square deals at all. So far all the reviews of this press are very impressive.

[tanks]

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I was cranking out a completed round in a turret press (size, prime, powder, seat, and crimp) in about 15-20 seconds.

Yeah, but no one that wants to be efficient is going to use a turret press like a progressive, not to mention it would be easy to skip steps.

I also prime (RCBS auto primer) and charge powder (RCBS MatchMaster) separately. Turret press is used to de-prime (Mighty Armory Universal de-prime die) , resize and seat bullets only.

Add chamfer and de-burring and annealing to the workflow then you are really talking most of the case prep for rifles being outside the turret press.

[sigstroker]

https://www.brownells.com/reloading/reloading-presses/single-stage-presses/the-zero-turret-press-prod137266.aspx?

On sale. Kinda. You get a $150 gift card if you buy one.

[sammy]

It looks like an amazingly well built press. The only presses I have used are a Dillon 650 and Forester Co-Ax and can't see a reason to own a turret press over the two presses I have.

What advantage does a turret press have over a single stage or a progressive auto-indexing press?

[tanks]

It looks like an amazingly well built press. The only presses I have used are a Dillon 650 and Forester Co-Ax and can't see a reason to own a turret press over the two presses I have.

What advantage does a turret press have over a single stage or a progressive auto-indexing press?

The progressive presses are for high volume not as precise ammo production. I can do 3K an hour of .40 S&W on mine. Just keep feeding it components while it keeps on chugging.

Most single stages have a bit of slop and you can see it on concentricity measurements. Not to mention that as one takes on and off dies even when marked it is not as precise.

Turret presses allow you to leave the dies in place after setting them up. Area 419, specifically, is very solid and smooth to operate and one gets the same results every time.

It also depends on one's needs and how picky there are. There are people who have never even chronographed or measured their MV though they have been reloading for decades. Minute of deer has been good enough for them.

[divingin]

How long has the company been in business for and how is their customer service?

12 years, and CS is reported to be excellent (I have very little experience with them though.)

[blockfort]

It's the HG-1 (manual coffee grinder) of presses

[Capybara]

Looks sweet, but they didn't get the memo that most reloaders are, lets say, "value oriented", myself included. I have the Lee Classic Turret and love it. Is this press better? Undoubtedly, it looks amazing. But it costs almost 10x as much or more. Will the ammo it produces be 10x better than what my LCT can make? I don't know. For me the bottom line is value. If someone shoots precision and wants to own this press, it may be a good value for them, even though it is expensive. If they are like me and just want to primarily crank out ammo for casual plinking and fun, it's probably overkill.

I reload rifle on a Lee Classic Cast (the one made out of old railroad ties) for rifle and precision, not that I shoot long distance since I sold my RPR. The LCT is for cranking out 9mm, .45 ACP and 9x18 Mak and for that job, I can't see dropping that kind of coin. I get it though, it does look like a Lamborghini and I am sure the feel must be excellent and super precise. It's cool, but not for me. If I was to spend that kind of money, I probably would spend it on a Dillon setup.

[tanks]

Looks sweet, but they didn't get the memo that most reloaders are, lets say, "value oriented", myself included. I have the Lee Classic Turret and love it. Is this press better? Undoubtedly, it looks amazing. But it costs almost 10x as much or more....

They did get the memo, and they can't keep it in stock. I had to wait 4 weeks for mine.

You are not their target customer. It is geared towards high volume shooters that are looking for consistency.

And regarding the cost, it is a one time cost. Heck, my annealer cost more and I had to wait a long while for it as well.

[Capybara]

They did get the memo, and they can't keep it in stock. I had to wait 4 weeks for mine.

You are not their target customer. It is geared towards high volume shooters that are looking for consistency.

And regarding the cost, it is a one time cost. Heck, my annealer cost more and I had to wait a long while for it as well.

Wow, that's cool that they are selling out. Yes, I would personally rather load precision rounds on a single stage, but if you want to do it faster, this seems like the way to get it done.

Rock on!

[sigstroker]

Looks sweet, but they didn't get the memo that most reloaders are, lets say, "value oriented", myself included. I have the Lee Classic Turret and love it. Is this press better? Undoubtedly, it looks amazing. But it costs almost 10x as much or more. Will the ammo it produces be 10x better than what my LCT can make? I don't know. For me the bottom line is value. If someone shoots precision and wants to own this press, it may be a good value for them, even though it is expensive. If they are like me and just want to primarily crank out ammo for casual plinking and fun, it's probably overkill.

I reload rifle on a Lee Classic Cast (the one made out of old railroad ties) for rifle and precision, not that I shoot long distance since I sold my RPR. The LCT is for cranking out 9mm, .45 ACP and 9x18 Mak and for that job, I can't see dropping that kind of coin. I get it though, it does look like a Lamborghini and I am sure the feel must be excellent and super precise. It's cool, but not for me. If I was to spend that kind of money, I probably would spend it on a Dillon setup.

They don't make that press for people that buy Lee presses.

[tanks]

BTW, at Area 419 site if one uses the code "Freedom10" then one will get a 10% discount on everything in stock until the 6th.

[Ronin6]

I have 3 turrets and loading 223, 224V, 6ARC, 6.5G, 6.5CM, 6.8SPC but set up for 308, 30/06, 303, 8x57, 7.62x54, 6.6x55, 7.5 French & Swiss………..

I love it, reload more often. Started with RC to Lee Classic Turret to COAX now with 419, best investment I’ve made in reloading. I reload for precision not just blasting.