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  • alks207
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2008
    • 1727

    Need help identifying a projectile

    About a year ago I was walking the coastal railroad just south of Del Mar, and I stumbled upon this. Makes me wonder why would anyone fire a gun towards the coast. Maybe ricochet, or an accidental discharge? Anyone know what gun this was fired from?
    Last edited by alks207; 07-14-2022, 11:49 AM.
  • #2
    hermosabeach
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Feb 2009
    • 19306

    I'm stumped

    New saw #'s on a projectile before
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    • #3
      TKM
      Onward through the fog!
      CGN Contributor
      • Jul 2002
      • 10657

      Description The Cartridge, HEI, Mk 1, w/Fuze, Percussion, DA, No. 253 Mk. I /A/, was adopted from the British in 1941. Little modification has followed except in the redesign
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      • #4
        alks207
        Senior Member
        • Mar 2008
        • 1727

        According to this, I have an unexploded HEI projectile then?

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        • #5
          Spanky8601
          Senior Member
          • Apr 2010
          • 2267

          As a youth in the 60ies, I found lots of projectiles in the bluffs along the coast. A lot of that land was target range for planes and ships getting ready for overseas deployment. Maybe someone found it and dropped it on the RR tracks for you to find.
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          • #6
            floogy
            Veteran Member
            • Sep 2009
            • 2741

            Originally posted by alks207
            According to this, I have an unexploded HEI projectile then?
            Yeah, that's what the red tip means. I would be very cautious when handling it. Not sarcasm or joking, be careful. Put it in a container and place it outside where it won't be disturbed while you figure out what to do with it. Red tip usually is tracer these days, but it's possible it was a tracer also, note the fuze on the tip that sets off the explosive. Looks like genuine UXO.

            Looks like something from an aircraft or ground based cannon. Likely WW2 era.
            Last edited by floogy; 03-29-2022, 8:46 PM.

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            • #7
              SanDiego619
              I need a LIFE!!
              • Jan 2013
              • 12108

              How interesting! It is not embedded into the wood like it was fired from off shore. I wonder if it was stuck in the dirt somewhere, someone picked it up and dropped it. It seems like if it came from a ship and landed right there it would be embedded into the wood.
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              • #8
                G-forceJunkie
                Calguns Addict
                • Jul 2010
                • 6306

                I wonder if it has been imbedded in the wood for decades and gradually got exposed. The driving band at the bottom screams ww2 era cannon projectile, 20mm would be a good guess. Whats the diameter, 20mm should be a bit over 3/4"

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                • #9
                  alks207
                  Senior Member
                  • Mar 2008
                  • 1727

                  Originally posted by SanDiego619
                  How interesting! It is not embedded into the wood like it was fired from off shore. I wonder if it was stuck in the dirt somewhere, someone picked it up and dropped it. It seems like if it came from a ship and landed right there it would be embedded into the wood.
                  It was imbedded in the railroad tie and in the pictures you can see large area of wood was splintered off upon impact. I had to pry it out with a pair of leatherman. I was thinking it might have been a CWIS round, but then why the heck would anyone be shooting towards Del Mar? Lol
                  Last edited by alks207; 03-29-2022, 10:01 PM.

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                  • #10
                    alks207
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2008
                    • 1727

                    Originally posted by floogy
                    Yeah, that's what the red tip means. I would be very cautious when handling it. Not sarcasm or joking, be careful. Put it in a container and place it outside where it won't be disturbed while you figure out what to do with it. Red tip usually is tracer these days, but it's possible it was a tracer also, note the fuze on the tip that sets off the explosive. Looks like genuine UXO.

                    Looks like something from an aircraft or ground based cannon. Likely WW2 era.
                    Yeah, I will probably go at the end of a pier and chuck it in the ocean. Weird that it didn't go off upon impact. I'm glad I asked.

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                    • #11
                      Mongoos913
                      Member
                      • Oct 2013
                      • 367

                      Dumb question, but is it US or maybe from another country? During WWII who know what was shot off shore towards land

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                      • #12
                        223556
                        Veteran Member
                        • Sep 2009
                        • 3344

                        That’s freaking awesome! If it is a HE round then I would definitely be very careful.
                        If not then I would keep it.
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                        • #13
                          alks207
                          Senior Member
                          • Mar 2008
                          • 1727

                          I took some more pictures. By the looks of it, it probably did ricochet off of something ad evident by a chunk of brass missing on the tip of the projectile.
                          Last edited by alks207; 07-14-2022, 11:49 AM.

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                          • #14
                            alks207
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 1727

                            Originally posted by Mongoos913
                            Dumb question, but is it US or maybe from another country? During WWII who know what was shot off shore towards land
                            It has a "No." for number, so it was made by an English-speaking country, also it was fired after the railroad was laid, which I am not sure when it was laid
                            Last edited by alks207; 03-29-2022, 10:21 PM.

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                            • #15
                              alks207
                              Senior Member
                              • Mar 2008
                              • 1727

                              Originally posted by G-forceJunkie
                              I wonder if it has been imbedded in the wood for decades and gradually got exposed. The driving band at the bottom screams ww2 era cannon projectile, 20mm would be a good guess. Whats the diameter, 20mm should be a bit over 3/4"
                              Sure, does measure 20mm.

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