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  • RaymondMillbrae
    Veteran Member
    • Jun 2009
    • 2659

    WHAT .223 BULLETS FOR RELOADING?

    Hey folks,

    I am now at the point to start reloading.

    The gear and accessories are out of the way, my Dillon XL650 is set-up for .223, the brass is waiting, and now I am about to order bullets and powder.

    First-off...I will be shooting a POF P415-14-P9SX-223. It is recently ordered, and should be here within a month or two. (Anticipation is killing me).

    So the question is: What manufacturer's bullets are yall firing down your barrels? I pretty much stick to Rainier Ballistic for pistol practice (I purchase them in 5000-round bulks), and Hornady XTP HP for my meat-eaters.

    I know that different barrels prefer different bullets - so if there are any POF reloaders, I would appreciate their opinions.

    I am especially interested in two things: What bullets are they using for competition bulk buys (the most accurate stuff), and home defense bullets.

    Thanks.

    It looks like I am getting down to the last phase of purchasing for 3-gun. *whew*

    In Christ: Raymond
    Some of my tutorials:

    RELOADING .223 VIDEO
    HOME MADE RECOIL SPRING TESTER
    SHORTENING THE LOP ON AN FN SLP SHOTGUN
    INSTALLING SIGHTS ONTO A REMMY 870P
    HORNADY 366 AUTO - INTRO OF PRESS & SLUG COMPONENTS (Part 1)
    HORNADY 366 AUTO - PROGRESSIVE RELOADING OF LYMAN SABOT SLUGS (Part 2)
  • #2
    bohoki
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 20727

    the cheapest 55 grainers you can find


    boattail reduces mush mouth(avoid the remington mc) unless you run your machine a tad more gentle than usual

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    • #3
      3GunFunShooter
      In Memoriam
      • Dec 2005
      • 2408

      55gr.
      If you can't shoot good, at least look good shooting

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      • #4
        RaymondMillbrae
        Veteran Member
        • Jun 2009
        • 2659

        Sorry folks,

        maybe I neeed to be more specific.

        I know (from previous posts) that for close range stuff, the 55-grainers are king. And for more "reach out and touch someone" distances, the 65-77-grainers are king.

        But I am specifically interested in manufacturer's.

        At short distances (50 to 100 yards), are there bulk buys that certain manufacturers offer that are preferred over others?

        For example, there are deals at Gun Broker that seem pretty decent. (Click HERE). I assume that these are OK for the short range 55-grainers.

        But what about bullets for distance shooting - the 65 to 77-grainer. (Like HERE). Are there preferred manufacturers that make more accurate bullets?

        I'd appreciate responses from reloaders, as yall are the ones who know a bit more about the specifics of making custom, ACCURATE, rounds for specific purposes. (And please don't say that they are all the same...because then I will know that you do not know what you are talking about)!

        Thanks.

        In Christ: Raymond
        Last edited by RaymondMillbrae; 07-04-2009, 2:53 PM.
        Some of my tutorials:

        RELOADING .223 VIDEO
        HOME MADE RECOIL SPRING TESTER
        SHORTENING THE LOP ON AN FN SLP SHOTGUN
        INSTALLING SIGHTS ONTO A REMMY 870P
        HORNADY 366 AUTO - INTRO OF PRESS & SLUG COMPONENTS (Part 1)
        HORNADY 366 AUTO - PROGRESSIVE RELOADING OF LYMAN SABOT SLUGS (Part 2)

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        • #5
          TMC
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2005
          • 2344

          I use Nosler 55's and 69's. Out of my 20" Saber Defense barrel the 69's group better at 200 than the 55's. The Nosler 55's shoot a bit better than Winchester 55's. Sorry I can't be and more help, that's all the bullets I've tested. I found something that shoots under 2" at 200 and stopped. That's all I need for 3-gun. For me, if its not windy and I'm shooting 200 or less I'll use the 55's because I'm cheap but at the Ironman we shot a plate rack with 6" plates at 215 and I used 69's, went 1 for 1. Its a good shootin bullet.

          I've worked out loads so both have the sale filght path out to 200 and I use the same powder for both. Just makes things easier.

          Wow, $250 for 1000 55's? I bought 6,000 Nosler 55's a year and half ago and paid about $400. Doesn't seem like a deal to me but I haven't been in the market for 223 bullets for a while.
          where are my pistol mags?

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          • #6
            JamesY
            Veteran Member
            • Apr 2006
            • 2652

            For 3-gun/plinking stuff, use 55gr FMJ BT bullets. Montana Gold, Armscor, Winchester, Lake City, Sierra, and other no-name ones should be good to go. The cheaper the better.

            For the longer distances, Sierra Match Kings are great. I haven't tried others but I also hear good things about Nosler and the rest. You just have to do your part and find your recipe tailored to your rifle. Get an RCBS precision mic and set your sizer die to go .002 under your chamber's size (just because you get new brass doesn't mean you don't have to size them). From there, work on your OAL and powder charges. Post pics of your < MOA groupings when done. Have fun!

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            • #7
              joelogic
              Calguns Addict
              • May 2008
              • 6592

              I bought hornady's 6k 55gr bulk box for $429 delivered only a couple of months ago. Shoots great.
              Micro/Mini Reflex Red Dot Sight Mount for the M1, M1a/M14 platform

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              • #8
                RaymondMillbrae
                Veteran Member
                • Jun 2009
                • 2659

                Thanks for the info, folks.

                That is EXACTLY what I was looking for.

                I ordered the RCBS PRECISIOON MIC Saturday morning, as well as a few other thingies.

                Man!!! Those bulk buys look pretty good. Where are they when you need them, huh?

                I still have a month or two before my new POF rifle arrives, so I will wait a bit before committing to bullets and primers. (Maybe the prices will drop a bit).

                In Christ: Raymond
                Some of my tutorials:

                RELOADING .223 VIDEO
                HOME MADE RECOIL SPRING TESTER
                SHORTENING THE LOP ON AN FN SLP SHOTGUN
                INSTALLING SIGHTS ONTO A REMMY 870P
                HORNADY 366 AUTO - INTRO OF PRESS & SLUG COMPONENTS (Part 1)
                HORNADY 366 AUTO - PROGRESSIVE RELOADING OF LYMAN SABOT SLUGS (Part 2)

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                • #9
                  foxtrotuniformlima
                  Veteran Member
                  • Nov 2008
                  • 3439

                  55 gr FMJBT from Hornady for general shooting. Out of my gun, I can get them to 1.5" @ 100.

                  69gr SMK ( Sierra Match Kings ) for most all 3 gun competition stuff. Same upper will keep these < 0.5".

                  Both over 25.5 gr Varget, LC brass & Wolf SR primers.
                  Anyone press will hear the fat lady sing.

                  Originally posted by Vin Scully
                  Don't be sad that it's over. Smile because it happened.
                  Originally posted by William James
                  I cannot allow your ignorance, however great, to take precedence over my knowledge, however small.
                  Originally posted by BigPimping
                  When you reach the plateau, there's always going to be those that try to drag you down. Just keep up the game, collect the scratch, and ignore those who seek to drag you down to their level.
                  .

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                  • #10
                    BerKim
                    Member
                    • Jul 2004
                    • 210

                    What's the twist on your rifle?
                    Guns should not have batteries

                    Dave

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                    • #11
                      RaymondMillbrae
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jun 2009
                      • 2659

                      Rifling twist rates

                      The rate of twist, expressed as one turn in so many inches (i.e. 1 in 10"), is designed to stabilize the range of bullets normally used in a particular caliber. It takes less twist to stabilize a given bullet at high velocity than at low velocity. At the same velocity in the same caliber, longer (pointed) bullets require faster twist rates than shorter (round nose) bullets of the same weight and heavier bullets require faster twist rates than lighter bullets of the same shape. It is undesirable to spin a bullet a great deal faster than necessary, as this can degrade accuracy. A fast twist increases pressure and also the strain on the bullet jacket.

                      Fortunately, the rate of twist chosen by the rifle maker is usually appropriate for the intended cartridge. Anyone ordering a new barrel for a rifle will generally do well to specify the standard twist as supplied by the major rifle manufacturers for that caliber.

                      In Christ: Raymond
                      Some of my tutorials:

                      RELOADING .223 VIDEO
                      HOME MADE RECOIL SPRING TESTER
                      SHORTENING THE LOP ON AN FN SLP SHOTGUN
                      INSTALLING SIGHTS ONTO A REMMY 870P
                      HORNADY 366 AUTO - INTRO OF PRESS & SLUG COMPONENTS (Part 1)
                      HORNADY 366 AUTO - PROGRESSIVE RELOADING OF LYMAN SABOT SLUGS (Part 2)

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                      • #12
                        gose
                        Veteran Member
                        • Oct 2005
                        • 3944

                        55gr out to 200y.
                        69gr after that.

                        Zeroed at 200y with both.
                        With Oden on our side.

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                        • #13
                          3GunFunShooter
                          In Memoriam
                          • Dec 2005
                          • 2408

                          +1 on what gose posted.
                          If you can't shoot good, at least look good shooting

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                          • #14
                            RaymondMillbrae
                            Veteran Member
                            • Jun 2009
                            • 2659

                            Gose,

                            what are the FPS for your rounds? (FPS for 55 grain & FPS for 69 grain)?

                            In Christ: Raymond
                            Some of my tutorials:

                            RELOADING .223 VIDEO
                            HOME MADE RECOIL SPRING TESTER
                            SHORTENING THE LOP ON AN FN SLP SHOTGUN
                            INSTALLING SIGHTS ONTO A REMMY 870P
                            HORNADY 366 AUTO - INTRO OF PRESS & SLUG COMPONENTS (Part 1)
                            HORNADY 366 AUTO - PROGRESSIVE RELOADING OF LYMAN SABOT SLUGS (Part 2)

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                            • #15
                              thmpr
                              Veteran Member
                              • Dec 2005
                              • 3785

                              If you don't plan to shoot greater than 200 yards, don't waste your money on expensive bullets. Thats what I've learned so far.

                              FPS: 2900 to 3100
                              NRA Life Member

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