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  • #31
    ar15barrels
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2006
    • 57040

    Originally posted by madstyle1
    So if i was to piece together. Other than Dies is this everything needed to get it started? Hardware wise.
    That list is missing the most important thing.
    Reloading manuals.
    Get 3 of them.
    Actual paper books.
    Lyman
    Your powder manufacturer of choice.
    Your bullet manufacturer of choice.
    Read the whole front of the layman manual before the reloading data until you actually understand it.
    After that, you should have an idea what you actually need.

    Cross reference loading data from all 3 books against each other and ignore the outliers.
    Randall Rausch

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    Barrel, sight and trigger work on most pistols and shotguns.
    Most work performed while-you-wait.

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    • #32
      tabascoz28
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2016
      • 3364

      Originally posted by madstyle1
      So if i was to piece together. Other than Dies is this everything needed to get it started? Hardware wise.
      These are my wants after 20 years of reloading. Otherwise it could be a chore. I have never scooped in powder and measured on a beam balance. I have never primed by hand in a separate hand process, always on press. I have never eyeballed the OAL of a bullet. For years I tried trimming with Lee zip trims and hand trimmers. That's a fast way to get some carpal tunnel or speed up your arthritis. I didn't include a tumbler because it's not technically necessary, I used to just wipe them down a bit and if it was really cruddy I'd use some steel wool. I still don't have a bullet puller. It's called a pair of pliers and leverage. With my accurate loads I always either used a previous setting or back them out and start over.

      My book came with my kit, the only things I have of the original kit is the press, the primer arms and the book. It is technically possible to learn on youtube but a lot of info is in different places. I am not sure there is one person who goes through all the intricacies of reloading all in one video.

      Reloading on a progressive press is also different. You'll have to know the process backwards and forwards before mixing all the processes together and potentially adding an auto primer drop, case drop, bullet drop and powder drop.

      Also, are you trying to make plinking ammo or accurate? I make 9mm on my semi progressive at about 400rds per hour. On my Big Green, I can probably make 50rds of 338LM an hour. That's not including trimming, annealing, and other case prep.
      Last edited by tabascoz28; 11-01-2021, 2:03 PM.

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      • #33
        RNE228
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2013
        • 2458

        I like analog for that reason. And, it is easier to watch the needle sweep as you adjust, as compared to watching numbers flash by.

        Digital and analog have their purposes. But I find on the reloading bench, I mostly reach for my analog calipers.

        Originally posted by ar15barrels
        Those are better than digital because you can read between the lines on an analog dial while digital has no lines so therefore less total resolution.

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        • #34
          RNE228
          Senior Member
          • Oct 2013
          • 2458

          Lots of stuff in the reloading section of Market Place here.

          I've been seeing a lot pop up on Craigslist in Sacramento region too.

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          • #35
            steelholder
            Veteran Member
            • Jul 2010
            • 3323

            Are you shooting 223 out of a semi? If so you're gna spend a LONG time reloading that with a single stage.
            WTB 3rd Gen SW also looking for a 22 pistol with 6" bbl or longer

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            • #36
              steelholder
              Veteran Member
              • Jul 2010
              • 3323

              At 500 I think you're paying way too much for what you're getting, look at the classic lee turret. Faster loads for 223 and can be used as single stage for 308.

              WTB 3rd Gen SW also looking for a 22 pistol with 6" bbl or longer

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              • #37
                madstyle1
                Senior Member
                • Aug 2012
                • 927

                I plan on reloading 223 & 308 win on this.

                BTW @AR15barrels I just ordered the 50th Edition from Lyman on amazon. Looking forward to reading this educate myself further.

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                • #38
                  madstyle1
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 927

                  Originally posted by tabascoz28
                  These are my wants after 20 years of reloading. Otherwise it could be a chore. I have never scooped in powder and measured on a beam balance. I have never primed by hand in a separate hand process, always on press. I have never eyeballed the OAL of a bullet. For years I tried trimming with Lee zip trims and hand trimmers. That's a fast way to get some carpal tunnel or speed up your arthritis. I didn't include a tumbler because it's not technically necessary, I used to just wipe them down a bit and if it was really cruddy I'd use some steel wool. I still don't have a bullet puller. It's called a pair of pliers and leverage. With my accurate loads I always either used a previous setting or back them out and start over.

                  My book came with my kit, the only things I have of the original kit is the press, the primer arms and the book. It is technically possible to learn on youtube but a lot of info is in different places. I am not sure there is one person who goes through all the intricacies of reloading all in one video.

                  Reloading on a progressive press is also different. You'll have to know the process backwards and forwards before mixing all the processes together and potentially adding an auto primer drop, case drop, bullet drop and powder drop.

                  Also, are you trying to make plinking ammo or accurate? I make 9mm on my semi progressive at about 400rds per hour. On my Big Green, I can probably make 50rds of 338LM an hour. That's not including trimming, annealing, and other case prep.


                  Just plinking..

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                  • #39
                    tabascoz28
                    Veteran Member
                    • Mar 2016
                    • 3364

                    You're lucky, cause that lee classic turret kit is now larger and stronger. My original lee precision turret couldn't do 308, weak and short. But i bought it 20yrs ago. Sold it for $80 and got a new classic recently. Solid unit for a first, get the process down and make 100rds an hour easy. I use the lee auto disk powder drop and skip the combo powder\scale, save some money. Use flake and ball powder. Sticks will get stuck in that dropper. Get a cheaper digi scale.

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                    • #40
                      madstyle1
                      Senior Member
                      • Aug 2012
                      • 927

                      Originally posted by tabascoz28
                      You're lucky, cause that lee classic turret kit is now larger and stronger. My original lee precision turret couldn't do 308, weak and short. But i bought it 20yrs ago. Sold it for $80 and got a new classic recently. Solid unit for a first, get the process down and make 100rds an hour easy. I use the lee auto disk powder drop and skip the combo powder\scale, save some money. Use flake and ball powder. Sticks will get stuck in that dropper. Get a cheaper digi scale.

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                      • #41
                        Imageview
                        Senior Member
                        • Jul 2018
                        • 1613

                        A single stage will be a bit slower than a turret, but you can still get 50-80 rounds an hour batch loading no problem. Just takes a bit of time to swap out the dies. If you're patient, that will load just about anything you want.

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                        • #42
                          ysr_racer
                          Banned
                          • Mar 2006
                          • 12014

                          When I started reloading 40 years ago, I wanted to go as slow as possible. Just so I could check and recheck everything.

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                          • #43
                            Fastattack
                            Senior Member
                            • Mar 2008
                            • 1651

                            Originally posted by ysr_racer
                            When I started reloading 40 years ago, I wanted to go as slow as possible. Just so I could check and recheck everything.
                            Right! I was just going to add that speed should NOT be the first priority for someone entering the reloading arena. Safety, quality control and understanding the process should be.

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                            • #44
                              madstyle1
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 927

                              I agree. I wouldn't be doing this in a hurry. Rather to do it right

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                              • #45
                                divingin
                                Veteran Member
                                • Jul 2015
                                • 2522

                                Originally posted by steelholder
                                Are you shooting 223 out of a semi? If so you're gna spend a LONG time reloading that with a single stage.
                                New reloader - spending a long time isn't a bad thing. Gives you time to notice problems.

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