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  • #16
    baranski
    Veteran Member
    • Oct 2015
    • 3852

    Originally posted by JackEllis
    If you're starting out you COULD skip a tumbler. Shiny brass is a nice-to-have but washing it in hot water with a few drops of Dawn and maybe a pinch of Lemishine or something similar gets brass clean enough.

    Not an RCBS press and not a single-stage but for the price, this setup might be worth considering:


    Now that is a good deal.
    Originally posted by ACfixer
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    • #17
      JackEllis
      Veteran Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 2731

      Better hurry up before I buy it. I'd love to have a second press set up for decapping and sizing.

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      • #18
        ysr_racer
        Banned
        • Mar 2006
        • 12014

        tl;dr

        OP, don't forget a caliper, bullet puller, and a cheap digital scale.

        Smart Weigh GEM20

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        • #19
          Oceanbob
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Jun 2010
          • 12720

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          • #20
            Divernhunter
            Calguns Addict
            • May 2010
            • 8753

            That is a great kit to start reloading with. I bought the RCBS Rockchucker kit in 1970 and still use it. It had some different items in it then. I now have 3 single stage presses and a Dillon 650.
            A 30cal will reach out and touch them. A 50cal will kick their butt.
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            • #21
              madstyle1
              Senior Member
              • Aug 2012
              • 927

              Originally posted by Fastattack
              You will need some calipers, but the cheap HF brand is ok to start out - they are as accurate as the expensive ones for your use. Eventually you will want to trim your brass too, but this kit will get you going.
              I have calipers but not digital. Its the old the needle in the glass version.

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              • #22
                ar15barrels
                I need a LIFE!!
                • Jan 2006
                • 57128

                Originally posted by madstyle1
                I have calipers but not digital.
                Its the old the needle in the glass version.
                Those are better than digital because you can read between the lines on an analog dial while digital has no lines so therefore less total resolution.
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                • #23
                  madstyle1
                  Senior Member
                  • Aug 2012
                  • 927

                  Originally posted by ar15barrels
                  Those are better than digital because you can read between the lines on an analog dial while digital has no lines so therefore less total resolution.
                  Nice im set in that category then lol

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                  • #24
                    Fizz
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2012
                    • 1473

                    Originally posted by ar15barrels
                    Those are better than digital because you can read between the lines on an analog dial while digital has no lines so therefore less total resolution.
                    Don't need .0000000000001 resolution for ammo. With analog you have parallax error, mechanical backlash, offset of dial face relative to the hand, mechanical wear, etc. If you want to get real into the weeds you can account for temperature effects on all of the above.

                    Then there's the human element of interpolating between mark readings. Then there's the fact that no piece of brass or projectile is exactly perfect so even if your measurement is perfect the material dimensions will be different even if measurements are the same.

                    I love me some analog calipers, but I can't think of any circumstance with ammo that these differences will manifest into downrange performance.

                    You want to get THAT exact, calipers are the wrong tool entirely and you need dial indicators in a temperature controlled environment.

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                    • #25
                      Fastattack
                      Senior Member
                      • Mar 2008
                      • 1656

                      Originally posted by ar15barrels
                      Those are better than digital because you can read between the lines on an analog dial while digital has no lines so therefore less total resolution.
                      Plus, no battery to worry about. Ever.

                      Sent from my SM-A505U using Tapatalk

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                      • #26
                        ysr_racer
                        Banned
                        • Mar 2006
                        • 12014

                        I've been using the same analog calipers I bought from Dillon about 35 years ago. There a knob on the dial that lets you adjust it for accuracy.

                        In all this time it's off .001

                        Money well spent.

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                        • #27
                          RickD427
                          CGN/CGSSA Contributor - Lifetime
                          CGN Contributor - Lifetime
                          • Jan 2007
                          • 9266

                          That RCBS kit is a great start. You'll soon find yourself adding equipment to your reloading bench as you gain experience, but wait for the experience to come before you go shopping.

                          A single-stage press is the right choice for a beginner. It's plenty fast enough for a casual shooter. If you do move up to a progressive press, you'll still value the single stage for small jobs.
                          If you build a man a fire, you'll keep him warm for the evening. If you set a man on fire, you'll keep him warm for the rest of his life.

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                          • #28
                            madstyle1
                            Senior Member
                            • Aug 2012
                            • 927

                            My Calipers lol
                            Attached Files

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                            • #29
                              madstyle1
                              Senior Member
                              • Aug 2012
                              • 927

                              Originally posted by tabascoz28
                              If I was doing it all over again I wouldn't buy kits.
                              1) Press (includes priming arms)
                              2) Digital scale and powder drop /combo
                              3) Calipers
                              5) Caliber specific trimmer (worlds cheapest trimmer on ebay and replace the endmill cutter)
                              6) Case prep center to chamfer, deburr, brush, clean flash holes, decrimp primers.

                              So if i was to piece together. Other than Dies is this everything needed to get it started? Hardware wise.

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                              • #30
                                heavyhaulin818
                                Senior Member
                                • Jan 2021
                                • 722

                                OP, I’m just learning too and right away I found out how important a kinetic hammer/collet die is. I bought the Berry’s and have found it to be very effective plus the handle id wider and feels more secure in the hand.

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