Any ideas?

[smoothy8500]

You aren't related to kendog by any chance?

There's no way....Kendog's postings make sense.

[67Cuda]

Cuda67, forgive, I am going to need a little help, I do not want to be involved in some kind of an insult, I do not know Kengog.

F. Guffey

Your answer puts you on a higher status in my opinion.

[fguffey]

Cuda67, thank you; I understand most of this stuff from the old days has nothing to do with the modern reloading forum ways of doing things. Before me there were cases being cleaned. Some of them had to be commercial cleaners. They were the ones that used the heavy acid. If they forgot to remove the cases in a timely manner there were no cases to remove. For that reason I believed time was a factor when cleaning cases with an acid. 15 minutes in 5% vinegar was adequate. I did not make it a habit, I only used vinegar once for the life of the case. Again, I had a rule, the vinegar process was for the worst of cases.

The old commercial case cleaners had a reason for using the heavy acid, it did not require a lot of time and they claimed the process pickled the cases. After rinsing the cases in boiling water the cases turned black; after that the cases were like die hard batteries, if you did not mess with them they lasted forever.

I had 2,200 30/06 cases to clean, I considered all 2,200 as the worst of cases. I cleaned the cases in a 6 gallon jug with 3 gallons of vinegar. And then there were the cases I purchased in Buck Horn N,C. Each one had a 30 caliber wasp/dirt dobber tucked away in them. The wife was not happy about that. They all hatched in one day and left in the form of a black cloud when she opened the door.

I still have the old commercial formula but vinegar is so much safer and only takes a few minutes more to clean.

One more time, thank you.

F. Guffey

[NORCAL50]

I can't look at every reply, but I don't think I saw this mentioned yet: If your brass is not tumbling, but rolling on the bottom of the drum instead that will cause that black buildup.

[baih777]

Are you tumbing with the primers still in the cases. ?

[divingin]

For those that can keep up less acid means more time.

I don't drop acid when I reload.

[JagerDog]

Yes. I have ideas.