Any ideas?

[ar15barrels]

I am using your ratios with the correct Iso.

A couple 6 packs of IPA will make it so you don't care as much about the ISO.

[ar15barrels]

I tried dry tumbling and decided it wasn't worth the effort.

Yeah.
All the chemistry lessons and and answering all the "why is my brass messed up while wet tumbling" threads is much easier...

[noylj]

This happens when the detergent is completly loaded with suspended dirt and all the soil falls out of solution. This can also happen with engines using detergent oils. Old non-detergent oils would require frequent filter changes. Detergent oils need less frequent changes, but IF the detergent is used up, all that glop appears everywhere in the engine.
Do not re-use cleaning water
Use more Dawn
Clean smaller batches

[kcheung2]

Yeah.
All the chemistry lessons and and answering all the "why is my brass messed up while wet tumbling" threads is much easier...

[ar15barrels]

I think I figured it out in another thread.
There is a vibratory tumbler that has an OPEN top.
It makes a bunch of dust of course because it's not covered!

I think that the myth of dust is derived from people that bought that tumbler.
Of course as you and I know, most vibratory tumblers do NOT have an open top and don't cause dust to get all over the place...

[nedro]

Thats too much work for brass cleaning.

Tumble dry in walnut media for 30 minutes. It'll look 1000x cleaner than that, and be ready to reload with no drying.

When you do that, do they come out of the dry media ready to go? Does the media fall off by itself?
Asking because I've never dry tumbled brass.

[Tommy Gun]

Dry tumbling is just that, dry. Its usually crushed corn cob or walnut and the vibratory action cleans the cases. Tou can add brass polish to it to make them shiny. Only draw back is that if you decide to deprime first and tumble, it does not clean primer pockets and you have to inspect the flash holes and clear any obstruction. For me I dry tumble before deprime and the action of depriving after clears any possible obstruction.

Dry tumbling creates dust you need to be aware of as well. But yes. You van dry tumble and immediately reload it with no drying time.

[TomReloaded]

The reptile walnut bedding I use is similar in grain size to sand. It falls out of the flash hole, so no worries there.

Gotta dump out the media from the brass. Either by hand or with the collander looking separator thing.

It's so ridiculously easier, faster, and problem free compared to wet tumbling. The finish it gives has lower friction than mirror polished slick brass, so it runs smoother in dies too. It does a satisfactory job cleaning primer pockets too. If you're chasing benchrest accuracy that's another matter. I don't decap first anyway.

[nedro]

So, the cartridges will still have some dust/debree left in them, but nothing to worry about. Correct?

[kevin c]

Interestingly enough, I used to dry tumble in walnut or corncob, using Midway's Frankford Arsenal polish, and if the media was old enough and overloaded with polish, I'd get cases with dirty looking crud on them that was hard to remove, plus even worse buildup inside the tumbler bowl.

I guess either method requires the right technique.

I went to wet tumbling. Even with keeping the lid on the tumbler, using dryer cloths, dampening the media and separating the media in a covered bin to keep the dust down there was still a lot of dust that was likely contributing to my elevated lead levels. The lead levels improved after the switch.

[kcheung2]

Interestingly enough, I used to dry tumble in walnut or corncob, using Midway's Frankford Arsenal polish, and if the media was old enough and overloaded with polish, I'd get cases with dirty looking crud on them that was hard to remove, plus even worse buildup inside the tumbler bowl.

I guess either method requires the right technique.

I went to wet tumbling. Even with keeping the lid on the tumbler, using dryer cloths, dampening the media and separating the media in a covered bin to keep the dust down there was still a lot of dust that was likely contributing to my elevated lead levels. The lead levels improved after the switch.

Dry tumbling should be exactly that, dry. When you make dry tumbling moist, that's the worst of both methods.

[ar15barrels]

So, the cartridges will still have some dust/debree left in them, but nothing to worry about. Correct?

Correct.
The remaining dust on the cases acts as a dry lube to keep the brass from galling to the sizing die or the expander button.
Galling is a common problem that wet tumbled cases have if the owners don't add some lube to the inside and outside of the cases before sizing.
Rifle cases need to be lubed anyways, but straight wall pistol cases like 9mm, 40, 45, 38/357 can all be sized in carbide dies without any lube.
The dust from dry tumbling is enough to keep them from galling.

[fguffey]

[67Cuda]

You aren't related to kendog by any chance?

[fguffey]

You aren't related to kendog by any chance?

Cuda67, forgive, I am going to need a little help, I do not want to be involved in some kind of an insult, I do not know Kengog.

F. Guffey