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  • #16
    five.five-six
    CGN Contributor
    • May 2006
    • 34875

    Varget is pretty foolproof and is notoriously temperature insensitive but it’s impossible to find and meters like Schiff.

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    • #17
      Zamble
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2011
      • 2354

      I have used Varget in my 1050 and my god it metered horribly.

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      • #18
        operavoice
        Senior Member
        • Oct 2017
        • 694

        Varget and H4895 are short extruded powders and meter fairly well in my Hornady powder drop. Usually + or - .1gr when miss. Once in a while a .2gr miss occurs. If you're in a high power load that could push you a little hot, but usually fits in an accuracy node.
        I use Varget in my .308 bolt and Mini 14.

        H4895 is what I use exclusively in my M1A with 168gr projectiles.

        IMR 4064, however, meters like crap.
        I've had it completely fail to drop in .223 because it clogged in the neck of the drop adapter.
        Last edited by operavoice; 01-22-2021, 10:25 PM.
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        • #19
          five.five-six
          CGN Contributor
          • May 2006
          • 34875

          Varget meters great in a charge master.

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          • #20
            fish45
            Member
            • Oct 2017
            • 386

            Originally posted by five.five-six
            Varget meters great in a charge master.
            HAHA. You got a 1050 chargemaster adapter?

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            • #21
              stand125
              Senior Member
              • Jun 2010
              • 1451

              39 gr of h4895 and 39 gr of N135 easily shoot hornady 168gr Hpbt sub moa in my savage Ashbury. The best 5 shot group ( 1/2 moa consistently at 100 yrds) was 36 gr of N135 pushing the 168 gr hpbt but the bullet drop was pretty quick past 200 yards and recoil was very mild.
              CALGUNS DICTIONARY "FLIER": when a shooter wants to turn a 1 inch group to a half inch group because he flinched.

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              • #22
                the86d
                Calguns Addict
                • Jul 2011
                • 9587

                With my XL 650, I usually get drops -.1, to +.1 on any powder, so a .2gr variance, on AVG.

                The 1050, or 750 the same?

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                • #23
                  bruce381
                  Senior Member
                  • Feb 2009
                  • 2452

                  Originally posted by fish45
                  I seriously wonder if some of the guys on the varget bandwagon have ever used it, it meters horribly.
                  LOL yeah like frosty flakes corn flakes.

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                  • #24
                    bruce381
                    Senior Member
                    • Feb 2009
                    • 2452

                    with todays market what you want and what you find will be 2 different things look around keep eyes open and buy fast.

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                    • #25
                      divingin
                      Veteran Member
                      • Jul 2015
                      • 2522

                      Originally posted by fish45
                      I seriously wonder if some of the guys on the varget bandwagon have ever used it, it meters horribly.
                      I started out loading IMR 4064 prior to moving to Varget.
                      Varget is miles better in the metering dept.

                      Yes, there are powders that meter better, but in short range 6BR, I haven't found anything that groups better than Varget. Remains to be seen if the new barrel falls in line with the old one though (if I ever get it in to the smith for the barreling...)

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                      • #26
                        fish45
                        Member
                        • Oct 2017
                        • 386

                        Originally posted by divingin
                        I started out loading IMR 4064 prior to moving to Varget.
                        Varget is miles better in the metering dept.

                        Yes, there are powders that meter better, but in short range 6BR, I haven't found anything that groups better than Varget. Remains to be seen if the new barrel falls in line with the old one though (if I ever get it in to the smith for the barreling...)
                        I find it very hard to believe that varget meters any differently than 4064.

                        Its great you found a load that works well for you, but its not the end all be all powder. If it were there wouldn't be other powders out there.

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                        • #27
                          fish45
                          Member
                          • Oct 2017
                          • 386

                          Originally posted by the86d
                          With my XL 650, I usually get drops -.1, to +.1 on any powder, so a .2gr variance, on AVG.

                          The 1050, or 750 the same?
                          I get roughly the same result with my 550 and 650.

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                          • #28
                            vaka
                            Senior Member
                            • Jan 2013
                            • 977

                            CFE223 if gas gun
                            Last edited by vaka; 01-25-2021, 4:12 PM.
                            Old problems are like dry poop, if you let the dry poop sit it doesn't smell but the minute you decide to stir the poop with a stick, the smell comes back. Moral of the story, Don't bring up old problems!

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                            • #29
                              divingin
                              Veteran Member
                              • Jul 2015
                              • 2522

                              Originally posted by fish45
                              I find it very hard to believe that varget meters any differently than 4064.
                              Varget is cut about half the length of the average 4064 granule. A third the length of the longer 4064 granules.


                              Its great you found a load that works well for you, but its not the end all be all powder. If it were there wouldn't be other powders out there.
                              Umm, I don't think I said it was the end all-be all. I said it works in my (short range) 6BR. I'm running RL-15 for the long range barrel (though trying to find something that burns a bit cleaner.)

                              And to be honest, I only search for a workable powder until I get one that works acceptably for me. There's a lot I haven't tried, and likely never will.

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                              • #30
                                Nessal
                                Banned
                                • Jan 2009
                                • 2261

                                Varget and H4895 worked great for me in .308 from 155gr to 175gr. It meters like **** though but I use a chargemaster so it's not a problem.

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