.45 acp identification

[MurdaJ]

Hi guys,

I'm doing an inventory on my inherited reloading supplies, lucky for me my grandpa was organized.

Came across this bullet though, and not sure if I trust the label on the box they're in.

Pic attached, container labeled "45 ACP 200 LHP"

It looks like a Jhp to me, maybe a slight hiccup in labeling?

[stevie]

Kind of resembles Speer Gold Dot, but not sure.

[slamfire1]

[sofbak]

WTF? Your pic shows TWO BULLETS!

Which one are we supposed to address,!?!?!


Sheeeesh. Some posters here.

[five.five-six]

Weight them and measure them and work up a load?

What am I missing here?

['ol shooter]

It looks like a plated hollow point, so LHP, Lead Hollow Point makes sense.
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[MurdaJ]

Kind of resembles Speer Gold Dot, but not sure.

Thanks

Thanks

WTF? Your pic shows TWO BULLETS!

Which one are we supposed to address,!?!?!


Sheeeesh. Some posters here.

Sorry, figured it was obvious I was asking about the hollow point, given the context, but I can see how it can be very confusing to put the words and pic together.

230gr ball included with mystery hollow point for reference.

Weight them and measure them and work up a load?

What am I missing here?

It looks like a plated hollow point, so LHP, Lead Hollow Point makes sense.
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[J-cat]

WTF? Your pic shows TWO BULLETS!

Which one are we supposed to address,!?!?!


Sheeeesh. Some posters here.

[pennstater]

OP, curious: your inherited inventory, did it include primers and powders? If so, you've hit a bonanza. Good luck with everything.

MLC

[MurdaJ]

OP, curious: your inherited inventory, did it include primers and powders? If so, you've hit a bonanza. Good luck with everything.

MLC

Over 36 lbs of various powders, over 10k assorted primers

Thanks

[Cowboy T]

First, weigh some of those hollow points to make sure they're really 200gr.

Next, assuming you have verified that weight, then I would recommend the following load. This is for 200gr bullets; do not try this with the 230gr one!

5.4gr Titegroup
Any standard large pistol primer

This is a max load for .45 ACP with a 200gr load. Works great in every gun I've ever tried it in. I use the typical mixture of headstamped brass that one would find at a range.

[MurdaJ]

First, weigh some of those hollow points to make sure they're really 200gr.

Next, assuming you have verified that weight, then I would recommend the following load. This is for 200gr bullets; do not try this with the 230gr one!

5.4gr Titegroup
Any standard large pistol primer

This is a max load for .45 ACP with a 200gr load. Works great in every gun I've ever tried it in. I use the typical mixture of headstamped brass that one would find at a range.

I'll verify everything that isn't in a sealed original container when it comes to loading. Right now I'm finishing up inventory and organizing.

Thanks for the tip, I dont have titegroup but i do have bullseye. If theres multiple containers of this bullet, I'm sure there is a recipe my grandpa developed in a notebook somewhere in my stack. If not, I'll pick up some titegroup later on (if possible)

[bumpo628]

Measure the diameter after double checking the weight. If it is .451, use jacketed data. Use lead data for .452

[Cowboy T]

I'll verify everything that isn't in a sealed original container when it comes to loading. Right now I'm finishing up inventory and organizing.

Thanks for the tip, I dont have titegroup but i do have bullseye. If theres multiple containers of this bullet, I'm sure there is a recipe my grandpa developed in a notebook somewhere in my stack. If not, I'll pick up some titegroup later on (if possible)

Ah, you've got Bullseye? Then try 5.0gr of this powder. That's my other (backup) load with this weight of bullet. Note that Alliant themselves say that max is 5.8gr, so you're well within safe limits.

[slamfire1]

Ah, you've got Bullseye? Then try 5.0gr of this powder. That's my other (backup) load with this weight of bullet. Note that Alliant themselves say that max is 5.8gr, so you're well within safe limits.

"The load", and I mean "the load" that was used in the 1910 developmental cartridges was a 230 FMJ with 5.0 grains of Bullseye powder going 800 fps, plus or minus. And "the load" was used in the pistol tests that lead to the adoption of the 1911, and "the load" was used in several World Wars and a bunch of bush wars. "The load" is the standard by which you should use in evaluating a load for a 45 ACP automatic. The pressure curve and velocity of "the load" is what the platform was developed around.



I don't know why the box says 820 fps, but this was the match load.