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  • SanDiego619
    I need a LIFE!!
    • Jan 2013
    • 12948

    I think I've got everything to start

    Hello, after reading and watching videos for a few days I think I've got a list of things I need to get started. Missing items are tumbler and swager die. I am going to be using once-fired brass that I am buying new and firing myself, and very few rounds, so I think at first I am going to clean the cases without tumbling.

    I think this is all I need to get started. I know with this gear, it won't be quick and fun, but it seems like a good setup for a beginner.

    Lee Challenger Kit 121744 $149
    Press
    Auto Primer
    Cutter
    Perfect Powder Measure
    Chamfer tool
    Primer pocket cleaner
    Beam scale
    Funnel
    Lube

    50 rd reloading tray (2) $10
    Lee Precision 6.5X55 Pacesetter Die set $34
    Lee Precision 6.5x55 Swedish Case Trim Gauge 90126 $6
    L.E. Wilson Case Length Headspace Gauge $29
    Anytime Tools Premium Dial Caliper 0-6"/0.001" $36

    And the Lymans 50th edition is in the mail already.

    Is anything missing?
    Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.
  • #2
    elpaisa1
    Member
    • Mar 2016
    • 243

    You're going to need a manner to clean brass i.e. wet/dry tumbling. And associated items based on what manner you choose.

    Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk

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    • #3
      SanDiego619
      I need a LIFE!!
      • Jan 2013
      • 12948

      Originally posted by elpaisa1
      You're going to need a manner to clean brass i.e. wet/dry tumbling. And associated items based on what manner you choose.

      Sent from my SM-N960U using Tapatalk
      I was gonna use hot water and elbow grease for the first batch, which will probably be 50 rounds...
      Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.

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      • #4
        boyguan
        Senior Member
        • Aug 2016
        • 751

        Originally posted by SanDiego619
        I was gonna use hot water and elbow grease for the first batch, which will probably be 50 rounds...
        The game changer for me was a tumbler and a automatic scale. If your not doing precisions loads, the auto drum works pretty well.

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        • #5
          pacrat
          I need a LIFE!!
          • May 2014
          • 10284

          Originally posted by SanDiego619
          I was gonna use hot water and elbow grease for the first batch, which will probably be 50 rounds...
          Which will more than suffice. I can't believe how many NEW reloaders come here for advice on how to minimally get started. And get EggSpurt advice telling them they need a case tumbling set up.

          Dish soap, a few drips per load, and a coffee can full of real hot water for initial washing. Then a couple rinses with hot water to remove any debris loosened by the wash cycle. If cases are tarnished a few turns between thumb and fore finger, with white color Scotch Brite pad. Before the wash cycle.

          For the first 20 or so yrs of my 52 yrs reloading. Worked just fine.

          edit to add.................I don't see a "trickler" on your list.
          Last edited by pacrat; 09-28-2020, 2:15 PM.

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          • #6
            sofbak
            Veteran Member
            • Aug 2010
            • 2628

            OP, if you decide to go with dry tumbling and can stand a drive to Mira Mesa-I'll make you a very good deal on a slightly used, but never abused Franklin Armory vibrating tumbler. PM if/when ur interested.
            Tire kickers gonna kick,
            Nose pickers gonna pick
            I and others know the real

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            • #7
              ironhorse1
              Senior Member
              • Nov 2012
              • 1004

              While clean cases are nice to work with it is not mandatory to have a tumbler.

              My neighbor never tumbled a case in 50 plus years of reloading. He just wiped them off,brushed the necks, cleaned the primer pockets and reloaded.

              He was wildcatting 6mm Rocket and the 22-250 before it was produced by vendors.

              A tumbler is nice and not expensive so get one when you can.

              Anyway I don't see powder, primers and bullets on the list.

              You will need a trimmer and what do you need a swager for if I might ask? Primer pockets? Probably not needed.
              Last edited by ironhorse1; 09-28-2020, 2:37 PM.

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              • #8
                ironhorse1
                Senior Member
                • Nov 2012
                • 1004

                Originally posted by sofbak
                OP, if you decide to go with dry tumbling and can stand a drive to Mira Mesa-I'll make you a very good deal on a slightly used, but never abused Franklin Armory vibrating tumbler. PM if/when ur interested.
                Had one of these for a long time. Good of you to offerup one that is GTG.

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                • #9
                  nedro
                  Veteran Member
                  • Nov 2014
                  • 4130

                  Good luck with your reloading!
                  Always welcome a new member to the rabbit hole we call reloading.

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                  • #10
                    SanDiego619
                    I need a LIFE!!
                    • Jan 2013
                    • 12948

                    Originally posted by sofbak
                    OP, if you decide to go with dry tumbling and can stand a drive to Mira Mesa-I'll make you a very good deal on a slightly used, but never abused Franklin Armory vibrating tumbler. PM if/when ur interested.
                    I think I could handle the few-minute drive

                    For now, I'll skip tumbling and wash my brass by hand, a big reason is I just don't have room in my small place for another thing like that. I am not even sure where to set up the reloading stuff. Thank you for that, if I start reloading more then I will see if you still have it, for now I will try by hand... let's see how long it takes me to get tired of doing it that way.
                    Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.

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                    • #11
                      SanDiego619
                      I need a LIFE!!
                      • Jan 2013
                      • 12948

                      Originally posted by pacrat
                      Which will more than suffice. I can't believe how many NEW reloaders come here for advice on how to minimally get started. And get EggSpurt advice telling them they need a case tumbling set up.

                      Dish soap, a few drips per load, and a coffee can full of real hot water for initial washing. Then a couple rinses with hot water to remove any debris loosened by the wash cycle. If cases are tarnished a few turns between thumb and fore finger, with white color Scotch Brite pad. Before the wash cycle.

                      For the first 20 or so yrs of my 52 yrs reloading. Worked just fine.

                      edit to add.................I don't see a "trickler" on your list.
                      To all: Thanks for the tips, I realized I don't need a swager, it's off the list now.

                      I will add a trickler, my thinking is I set the perfect powder to be a tiny bit under my target weight, then use the trickler to get to my exact weight, that seems best. Tricklers aren't expensive either.
                      Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.

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                      • #12
                        SmokeTheClay
                        Senior Member
                        • Aug 2015
                        • 874

                        Originally posted by SanDiego619
                        I was gonna use hot water and elbow grease for the first batch, which will probably be 50 rounds...
                        The way I cleaned brass before I had a wet tumbler with steel media was:

                        If you have a ~64 ounce, cleaned out PLASTIC orange juice container, you're set.

                        Just stuck your brass in the orange juice container, add hot water about half way up with some dishsoap. Shake if around for a few minutes. Then rinse the brass. Then stick it in a sun to dry and you're good.

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                        • #13
                          SmokeTheClay
                          Senior Member
                          • Aug 2015
                          • 874

                          Originally posted by SanDiego619
                          Hello, after reading and watching videos for a few days I think I've got a list of things I need to get started. Missing items are tumbler and swager die. I am going to be using once-fired brass that I am buying new and firing myself, and very few rounds, so I think at first I am going to clean the cases without tumbling.

                          I think this is all I need to get started. I know with this gear, it won't be quick and fun, but it seems like a good setup for a beginner.

                          Lee Challenger Kit 121744 $149
                          Press
                          Auto Primer
                          Cutter
                          Perfect Powder Measure
                          Chamfer tool
                          Primer pocket cleaner
                          Beam scale
                          Funnel
                          Lube

                          50 rd reloading tray (2) $10
                          Lee Precision 6.5X55 Pacesetter Die set $34
                          Lee Precision 6.5x55 Swedish Case Trim Gauge 90126 $6
                          L.E. Wilson Case Length Headspace Gauge $29
                          Anytime Tools Premium Dial Caliper 0-6"/0.001" $36

                          And the Lymans 50th edition is in the mail already.

                          Is anything missing?
                          Something that I found was my most helpful purchase was a really good set of Mitutoyo calipers. I started out with the Pittsburgh calipers from Harbor Freight and it would consistently get inconsistent readings. When you want to get more specific with your loading, the calipers are a really worthwhile first investment.

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                          • #14
                            ojisan
                            Agent 86
                            CGN Contributor
                            • Apr 2008
                            • 11768

                            No tumbler is needed.
                            Mostly fill a large coffee can with walnut cleaning media and your brass.
                            Secure the lid with duct tape.
                            Put the can in your car trunk with room to move around in all directions.
                            Drive up and down a bumpy dirt road for a couple hours or for a week of normal work and grocery store commuting.
                            For faster results, securely attach the can to the rear frame loop of your dirt bike or ATV and ride in a rocky area for one hour.



                            Yes, I think you have everything to start.
                            Keep us posted.
                            Last edited by ojisan; 09-28-2020, 3:50 PM.

                            Originally posted by Citadelgrad87
                            I don't really care, I just like to argue.

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                            • #15
                              SanDiego619
                              I need a LIFE!!
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 12948

                              Originally posted by ojisan
                              No tumbler is needed.
                              Mostly fill a large coffee can with walnut cleaning media and your brass.
                              Secure the lid with duct tape.
                              Put the can in your car trunk with room to move around in all directions.
                              Drive up and down a bumpy dirt road for a couple hours or for a week of normal work and grocery store commuting.
                              For faster results, securely attach the can to the rear frame loop of your dirt bike or ATV and ride in a rocky area for one hour.



                              Yes, I think you have everything to start.
                              Keep us posted.
                              That's a good idea, I don't want all that noise though so I think what I will do is sneak under my neighbors truck at night time and use a giant hose clamp to attach it to his lower control arm. I will retrieve it after a week.

                              I will update when I get closer to reloading. I'm going to order 200 rounds of 6.5x55 for my gun, wait for my gun to arrive at the FFL, wait 10+ days for DROS, then shoot at least 50 rounds through it, and then try reloading. That won't be for a month or two.

                              That is, if primers are available in a month or two...
                              Where the people fear the government you have tyranny. Where the government fears the people you have liberty.

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