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  • #76
    DueceMcGurk
    Senior Member
    • Jul 2016
    • 884

    Mr. Blue,
    I started with a $109 Lee Classic Turret. Probably added another $150 in dies and accessories to reload 45 ACP. A big factor was that my gunner friend said, "Get it. I will teach you how."

    The main advantage is that I could tailor my loads to fit my needs... plinking and later comp. An unexpected benefit was that it opened a window into the world of ammo and ballistics. Quite enjoyable for some of us warped shooters.

    The cons are few if you enjoy getting deeply into shooting sports. Space requirements, complexity, need for concentration, study time may be negatives for some.

    8 calibers and 50,000 rounds later, it was a good move for me. Add covid distraction and great gunners met, and it keeps getting better.

    Avoid the red, blue, orange and green debates and enjoy reloading. You meet the nicest, most helpful (and crabbiest) folks in the CalGuns loading world.

    Welcome!

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    • #77
      JoyfulJoker
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Sep 2018
      • 755

      I just got an Xl750 and I’m new to reloading. You can use it as a single stage press or like a turret press until you get it down. That’s my plan. I’m expecting a drought through 2022 and have enough primers to squeeze by. I’m picking the ear of every reloader I meet and watching vids . I’ve got the Lyman Pistol and Revolver Handbook.
      Any other book recommendations?
      Everyone has got a different opinion. What works for one does not work for another. I plan on installing a powder alarm and lights . I went nuts buying ammo and reloading components from February until now where I am priced out. 60 cents a round for 9mm?!! .70 cents for .223 steelcase?!!
      Last edited by JoyfulJoker; 09-22-2020, 8:13 PM. Reason: Spelling

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      • #78
        FISHNFRANK
        Senior Member
        • Jul 2008
        • 1029

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        • #79
          TKM
          Onward through the fog!
          CGN Contributor
          • Jul 2002
          • 10657

          Originally posted by Gryff
          I've never heard this before (I have both the 03FFL and the COE). I have mail-ordered to my door many times, but where do I look if I want to get better pricing from "wholesalers"?
          The combination of The Gun Wiki to our system is not only in line with what we are working on, but will also serve as a means in which to build upon our ongoing projects.



          Ask your suppliers if they have a dealer program. Send them pics of your documentation if they do.

          Brownells, Classic and Grafs have been very, very good to me.

          I blame your so called friends for not telling you about this thirty years ago.

          You are also exempt from the no-shipping of ammo law. You just have to find ammo dealers that are on board with the option. AIM and Brownells ship ammo right to my door.
          It's not PTSD, it's nostalgia.

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          • #80
            Cowboy T
            Calguns Addict
            • Mar 2010
            • 5725

            Originally posted by Gryff
            I have to say that I learned on a XL650. Zero loading experience before I got the press (a re-gifting from my father). Learning curve is steeper than on a single-stage, but while I'm not particularly handing with tools, I found that it wasn't insurmountable. I did do a lot of reading beforehand on the principles of reloading, so I did have a basic understanding of the variables that are important considerations. And I took it slow.

            Since I only load for handgun, and I shoot a decently high round count per month, if I were to do it again, I would do it exactly the same. Buying a single-stage "just to learn" would be a waste of money to me.
            I've found the opposite. That little single-stage on my bench actually gets plenty of usage, even though I've been reloading mostly progressively for the last 10+ years. All my load development is done on the single-stage. All my cast bullet sizing is likewise done on it. Same for fixing any "errant rounds" that might on rare occasion show up. I have that single-stage, a Classic Turret, and two Pro 1000 progressives. I guess it's like having multiple screwdrivers for the various things that we encounter in, say, auto mechanics.
            "San Francisco Liberal With A Gun"
            F***ing with people's heads, one gun show at a time. Hallelujah!
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            • #81
              drkphibr
              Senior Member
              • Dec 2010
              • 2460

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              • #82
                Mr. Blue
                Veteran Member
                • Dec 2019
                • 2503

                So let me break down my initial thinking of the term pros and cons, and how it applied to this thread. I was curious about the pros and cons of:
                *performance
                *accuracy
                *effect on firearm (compared to factory ammo)

                I’ve often heard accuracy can be dialed in a bit with reloading.
                https://youtube.com/c/GatCat

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                • #83
                  GeeBee49
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2020
                  • 1981

                  I also made notes about recoil in certain loads, especially magnum loads. Recoil isn't just about reducing the powder charge. It also has to do with bullet weight and faster burning powder compared to slower burning powder. At least I think it does.

                  Here's a burn rate chart if anyone's interested.

                  Once you start reloading and are using loading data looking at a burn rate chart can give you a little insight on a particular powder you are using compared to others. Mind you that this Burn Chart does not include the amount of difference of a slower to the faster. It only informs that #42 is...

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                  • #84
                    kcheung2
                    Veteran Member
                    • Aug 2012
                    • 4387

                    Strictly on that limited criteria, there are no pros to reloading. Every one of those narrow requirements can be met with factory ammo....for a price.

                    What you didn't touch on was price, availability, and knowledge. If I can throw enough money at shops, I'll get plenty of great factory ammo. I won't know a thing about why it's great, and I'll be a lot poorer, but I'll have it. In the real world I can't afford to buy 1000 rounds in the same batch (why the same batch? that's the knowledge part) for $2-$3 per round but I can definitely afford the components to make 1000 for substantially less $$.

                    You'll hear a common claim among reloaders that they can make match grade ammo that rivals commercial match grade ammo. And yes it's a true statement. But what they rarely brag about, although they should, is that it only cost them a fraction of the comparable factory ammo.
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                    "There is no "best." If there was, everyone here would own that one, and no other." - DSB

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                    • #85
                      Cowboy T
                      Calguns Addict
                      • Mar 2010
                      • 5725

                      Oh, I do! I brag about it, because it's true. Not only is my own ammo better, it's way less expensive. I make match-grade 7.62x54R. Yep, Mosin-Nagant ammo! And I do it with Hornady 178gr BTHP's. How can this be when Mosins have 0.311" bores? Simple, one of my Mosins was bought as a barreled receiver (barrel was junk), sent off to McGowan for a rebuilding (with rebarreling). The barrel specified was a 7.62x54R chamber, but a 0.308" bore. Rifle also got a Timney trigger and a Boyd's pillar-bedded walnut riflestock, all purchased on sale. Oh, and a rebluing. Why did I do this? Well, 'cause I could. :-) Same reason people trick out their cars; just thought it'd be fun. Yes, this rifle shoots very well with my match ammo.

                      Now, let's talk handgun. My ".45 Colt Magnum" handload, very similar to a Buffalo Bore load, is about 1/10th the cost of buying it from Buffalo Bore. Their price is $80/box of 50. Mine is $8.50 for that same box. And my ammo is better because not only do I use softer lead for proper bullet obturation, but I lube the bullet better. Translation: no lead-fouling in the Super Redhawk.
                      "San Francisco Liberal With A Gun"
                      F***ing with people's heads, one gun show at a time. Hallelujah!
                      http://www.sanfranciscoliberalwithagun.com (reloading info w/ videos)
                      http://www.liberalsguncorner.com (podcast)
                      http://www.youtube.com/sfliberal (YouTube channel)
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                      To be a true Liberal, you must be 100% pro-Second Amendment. Anything less is inconsistent with liberalism.

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