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  • fguffey
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2010
    • 1408

    Negitive Head Space

    There is no end. A reloader claims he has negative head space, there is a chance he does not know better but someone on two pages of responses should be smart enough to get close when answering the question.

    Negative head space as in the - negative side of zero?

    F. Guffey
    Last edited by fguffey; 06-05-2020, 2:32 PM. Reason: one remove e
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    LynnJr
    Calguns Addict
    • Jan 2013
    • 7958

    His feeler gage was on the wrong side of his shellholder which means his tensions were all off on his datums. I am the only Reloader that knows datums tensions and feeler gages so he will have to size his brass more unless he doesn't know Bump.
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    • #3
      FLIGHT762
      Veteran Member
      • Mar 2009
      • 3072

      So, is this the Ammo & Reloading forum the complaint department now?

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      • #4
        bsumoba
        Veteran Member
        • Sep 2012
        • 4217

        Originally posted by FLIGHT762
        So, is this the Ammo & Reloading forum the complaint department now?
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        • #5
          robert101
          Senior Member
          • Sep 2009
          • 1997

          Well maybe his is using negative and positive numbers like caster and camber to a car alignment. I don't get it either.

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          • #6
            fguffey
            Senior Member
            • Mar 2010
            • 1408

            So, is this the Ammo & Reloading forum the complaint department now?

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            • #7
              fguffey
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2010
              • 1408

              Well maybe his is using negative and positive numbers like caster and camber to a car alignment. I don't get it either
              I do not know what part you do not get.

              If we are talking about caster on a vehicle we expect the caster to be the same on both sides; if we are driving down on a road that is high in the center we want less caster on the left side than the right.

              If we are driving a motor cycle without caster we can not drive fast.

              And then there is road shock and shimmy, for a smooth ride we want negative caster. If we want road wonder and weave we want zero caster.

              And if we want to drive down the road without hands we want lots of caster, caster allows the auto to drive straight down the road.

              F. Guffey
              Last edited by fguffey; 06-07-2020, 5:50 AM. Reason: change c to s

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              • #8
                LynnJr
                Calguns Addict
                • Jan 2013
                • 7958

                I am the only Reloader that understands bias ply and radial tires. If your measuring tensions your using radials on your street car bias ply on your 4 wheel drive and you don't golf.
                I make my own datums and I am the only Reloader who does so I have no tires on my boat but I do on my boat trailer.
                I use feeler gages under my rod holders which means more fish but again I know feeler gages.
                Rocky Raab knows neck tensions but he went to the moon but don't tell that to Elan Musk.
                Simple.
                Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
                Southwest Regional Director
                Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
                www.unlimitedrange.org
                Not a commercial business.
                URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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                • #9
                  Imageview
                  Senior Member
                  • Jul 2018
                  • 1629

                  Does this ever end? As someone fairly new to reloading, who likes this subforum, does he take a break every so often?

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                  • #10
                    fguffey
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2010
                    • 1408

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                    Does this ever end? As someone fairly new to reloading, who likes this subforum, does he take a break every so often?
                    I am as happy with the answer no as I would be with the answer yes. If you do not know just say you do not know. Ever time the subject 'head space' comes up everyone jumps out into the fast lane like they are experts. The question I asked was presented to an expert forum I honestly though they could do better, it is my understanding most of them are bench resters.

                    None of them acted like children, in my opinion they just made it up as they went.

                    F. Guffey

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                    • #11
                      J-cat
                      Calguns Addict
                      • May 2005
                      • 6626

                      Negative headspace is the opposite of positive headspace.

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                      • #12
                        Sandspider500
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2018
                        • 1146

                        The headspace in between my ears is bigger than I can measure with my calipers.
                        Originally posted by Palmaris
                        You should not worry about me. This web site is monitored by all kind of authorities and if they found this kind of post credible enough as threat, they might want to start investigation. I have no idea what can be outcome. Just saying.

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                        • #13
                          slayer61
                          Senior Member
                          • Jun 2014
                          • 1402

                          1/-0 = negative head space
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                          • #14
                            bigbossman
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                            • Dec 2012
                            • 11164

                            Negative Headspace Matters
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                            • #15
                              LynnJr
                              Calguns Addict
                              • Jan 2013
                              • 7958

                              I am the only Reloader who rests on a bench thus I am a bench rester. When your resting on a bench it is important that you take your spurs off before you squat. Tetanus is more than most reloaders can handle while resting on a bench but they can handle it while sleeping on a bench. They are known as sleeper shooters benchsleepers or tired but I have no gages that measure in sleepiness.

                              I had a barrel that had zero headspace and another that had over 0.100 headspace and when I bought a short chambered barrel it was 0.050 under but then again I am a wildcat.
                              There is no such thing as negative voltage but depending on where you locate the ground there is negative voltage simple.
                              Last edited by LynnJr; 06-05-2020, 4:24 PM.
                              Lynn Dragoman, Jr.
                              Southwest Regional Director
                              Unlimited Range Shooters Association (URSA)
                              www.unlimitedrange.org
                              Not a commercial business.
                              URSA - Competition starts at 2000 yards!

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