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  • bhilliker@comcast.net
    Senior Member
    • Mar 2012
    • 712

    swaged 223 brass

    Bought some 223 brass. Ended up being swadged!! How hard is it to process these?

    What do I need to get it done?
  • #2
    sigguy552
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    • Jun 2003
    • 702

    Almost all 223/5.56 brass needs to be swaged to remove the crimp. Dillon has a the super swage 600
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    • #3
      JackEllis
      Veteran Member
      • Nov 2015
      • 2731

      Pretty sure I’m the seller. It was Speer plated brass and as far as I know it was .223 but I wasn’t aware it was crimped (and plan on talking to the OP as soon as we can set up a time).

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      • #4
        'ol shooter
        Veteran Member
        • Mar 2011
        • 4646

        I have a bunch of Federal .223 LE that has a tight crimp on it, the Win. 223 LE had a light crimp, so much so that it did not need to be swaged. The RCBS swage tool that fits in the press is the cheapest way out and works fine, the Dillon I like better. A primer pocket gage helps to prevent over swaging and making loose primer pockets.
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        • #5
          Bumslie
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          • Oct 2011
          • 5358

          Buy a rcbs military crimp remover and either chuck it up in a drill or your favorite case prep station

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          • #6
            Divernhunter
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            • May 2010
            • 8753

            Dillon Super Swager is the best on the market. I have tried many different tools and it beats them all
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            • #7
              bhilliker@comcast.net
              Senior Member
              • Mar 2012
              • 712

              ordering the Dillon 600 today.

              Thanks

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              • #8
                'ol shooter
                Veteran Member
                • Mar 2011
                • 4646

                Originally posted by Bumslie
                Buy a rcbs military crimp remover and either chuck it up in a drill or your favorite case prep station
                I tried one of those, didn't work for me. The press mounted version was A-OK.
                When I got an opportunity to buy a lightly used Dillon, I went for it. Very nice unit.
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                • #9
                  reverser
                  Senior Member
                  • Dec 2009
                  • 710

                  For the love of God, if anyone reading this does decide to go with one of those cutter style crimp removers, please watch how much material you remove. I’ve gotten brass with half the primer pocket missing. You don’t need to go that far with it.
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                  • #10
                    divingin
                    Veteran Member
                    • Jul 2015
                    • 2522

                    Originally posted by bhilliker@comcast.net
                    Bought some 223 brass. Ended up being swadged!! How hard is it to process these?

                    What do I need to get it done?
                    If you have a rocket-ship case mouth deburring tool, a couple of turns of the pointy end will take the crimp off. Don't go overboard; try a twist or two and see if a primer will seat (you can use a spent primer to test if you don't want to [potentially] waste a live primer.) If it doesn't seat without fiddling (or not at all), give it another twist or two. You'll get a feel for how much you have to do pretty quickly.

                    Other alternatives are a dedicated swaging press, a swaging kit that mounts on a standard press, or a handheld primer pocket cutting reamer. Probably a few others I don't know about as well.

                    Oh, and just to be clear, the pockets are crimped; you need to swage or cut the crimp from the primer pocket.

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                    • #11
                      anyracoon
                      Veteran Member
                      • May 2006
                      • 3696

                      I have had the Dillon 600 for several years and works great.

                      I just picked up a Franklin Arsenal Swager and have to say works pretty slick once you get it dialed in.

                      Here is a YouTube video; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6C0mcE6Dtk

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                      • #12
                        bhilliker@comcast.net
                        Senior Member
                        • Mar 2012
                        • 712

                        swaged 223 brass

                        Originally posted by anyracoon
                        I have had the Dillon 600 for several years and works great.

                        I just picked up a Franklin Arsenal Swager and have to say works pretty slick once you get it dialed in.

                        Here is a YouTube video; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6C0mcE6Dtk

                        shoot----I like the looks of this one over the Dillon. I like the vertical component. Looks like it would be quicker----oh wait----rifle prep, nothing is quick and that shouldn't be the point.

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                        • #13
                          baih777
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                          • Jul 2011
                          • 5680

                          I use this one.


                          Every winter I do a two gallon bucket. 308 or 223.

                          I use these guages after swaging.


                          DO NOT try and check each brass after each swage. It takes for ever. After swaging I just check them all at once. All the ones that fail just place off to the side. Swage again. Check again. If it fails again throw it away.

                          I had the sand down the large primer one. It was checking ok but primers were loose.
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                          • #14
                            sigstroker
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                            • Jan 2009
                            • 19619

                            I've got one of these things(RCBS). It's a little slow, but for under 40 bucks, I like it.

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                            • #15
                              MarikinaMan
                              Veteran Member
                              • Nov 2015
                              • 4864

                              Originally posted by sigstroker
                              I've got one of these things(RCBS). It's a little slow, but for under 40 bucks, I like it.

                              A little slow is an understatement. Mine sticks to the brass and I got to really muscle the handle to get it out. On a coupla hunerd cases, its sucks.

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