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  • rodsvet
    Member
    • Apr 2013
    • 225

    Evolution Gun Works

    Beware of this company. They do not stand behind their case checkers. They say that if it will "plunk" in their checker, it will chamber in any AR. I have 2 FN barrels and three DS Arms Ar's and now have 6500 rounds to pull down and resize. They do not respond to emails or phone messages. Do business with them at your own peril!
  • #2
    duxxu
    Member
    • Sep 2012
    • 338

    Did you really load 6500 rounds before plunking a single one into a barrel

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    • #3
      baih777
      CGN/CGSSA Contributor
      CGN Contributor
      • Jul 2011
      • 5680

      My Dillon and Hornaday are like that.
      But none of the case checkers, check right below the shoulder.
      They only check headspace.
      Measure the diameter of a factory round below the shoulder.
      Then measure your reloads at the same spot.

      If your die is not adjusted correctly, it's possible that you bulge the case below the shoulder .
      Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
      I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
      I'm Back.

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      • #4
        rodsvet
        Member
        • Apr 2013
        • 225

        Yes, I did do a trial fit for the first few. But once I got going, I just tried every third one in the checker. Some will chamber but the batch is not reliable. It is a lesson learned. When I do pistol, I use the barrels as checkers. It's a pain in the *** to check every 5.56 in the rifle. That's why I got the tool from Evolution Gun Works. Live and learn Guess. If they were a stand up company, they would have at least returned my calls or my emails.

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        • #5
          kcstott
          I need a LIFE!!
          • Nov 2011
          • 11796

          how do you know it the case checker? Do you have head space guages? Do you have any way other than some unknown case to check the checker?

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          • #6
            'ol shooter
            Veteran Member
            • Mar 2011
            • 4646

            I have nothing but good things to say about the many products I have bought from EGW. Take KC's advice, maybe you have issues elsewhere. I have never had trouble getting hold of them, by the way.
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            • #7
              mjmagee67
              Veteran Member
              • Jun 2011
              • 2771

              What dies were you using? Did you have said dies set up correctly? I've literally loaded 10 of thousands of rounds and never used a case gauge. I can't recall a round not going into battery and firing. I only started case gauging after shooting USPSA and I only case gauge 9mm and 40SW.
              If you want change you have to put in your 2 cents, you can't just sit on the sidelines and whine.

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              • #8
                duxxu
                Member
                • Sep 2012
                • 338

                I had the same problem resizing 223 - not bumping the shoulder back enough. About 50% of my rounds would chamber and I thought I just had a dirty chamber. Now I randomly chamber resized brass to make sure my dies are set up right.

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                • #9
                  Jeepergeo
                  Veteran Member
                  • Feb 2012
                  • 3507

                  EGW has provided me outstanding customer service. You got a lot of things going on....it may not be what you first concluded was the problem.
                  Benefactor Life Member, National Rifle Association
                  Life Member, California Rifle and Pistol Association

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                  • #10
                    TexasJackKin
                    Senior Member
                    • Jul 2014
                    • 718

                    I've not used an EGW case gauge, or any case gauge for that matter, but I have used a lot of 1911 parts from them, and have been quite pleased with their products and service.
                    Last edited by TexasJackKin; 03-31-2018, 6:42 AM.
                    Mike M.
                    Dayton, NV
                    NRA Life member
                    Front Sight DG
                    CRPA, USPSA, AOPA, EAA, CCW: NV, CA & AZ
                    Yes, I'm related to Texas Jack

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                    • #11
                      rodsvet
                      Member
                      • Apr 2013
                      • 225

                      The only reason I put out the post was because of their not trying in the least to call me back or answer emails. I'm using RCBS small base sizing die turned 1/4 after fully against the shell holder at the top of the stroke. It's a Rockchucker and is camping over. The brass is mixed but mostly from the FBI practice range. The rifles are head space correctly and are from now manufacturers like FN and DSarms. I've been reloading for 40 years and thought this tool would be a time saver. I figured they sold an out of spec tool and would be interested in at least checking it out. They are not. If you guys have good luck with their stuff, then great, I just thought I would share my experience. Have a nice Easter!!

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                      • #12
                        Cheep
                        Senior Member
                        • Apr 2009
                        • 1338

                        You loaded 6500 rounds on a Rockchucker? WOW!
                        Originally posted by NOMADCHRIS
                        your asking a question about asking a question ??? just ask the damn question!!!

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                        • #13
                          Mayor McRifle
                          Calguns Addict
                          • Dec 2013
                          • 7796

                          Originally posted by rodsvet
                          The only reason I put out the post was because of their not trying in the least to call me back or answer emails.
                          Anchors Aweigh

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                          • #14
                            kcstott
                            I need a LIFE!!
                            • Nov 2011
                            • 11796

                            Let me give you a lesson in Trouble shooting.

                            Problem is noticed

                            A. Is the cause blatantly obvious to the problem? B. or could this be caused by more than one issue?

                            If A is your answer you need to prove that the blatantly obvious issue is the cause.

                            If B Is your answer you need to prove what is not the cause and eliminate them from your list of possibilities.
                            When you are left with one unresolved possibility, that is most likely the cause.

                            But in the real world even a blatantly obvious issue should be investigated and no jumping to conclusions because in all likelihood that is a guess and a mistake.

                            FYI Guys post here or on some other section that their case gauge is wrong. It's the same old argument you have, My rounds either fit the case gauge and don't fit the chamber, or they fit the chamber but not the gauge.
                            In either case the case gauge is made to one standard and your chamber another, Using your unknown spec loaded ammo to check either and prove either is bad or good is like substituting a tape measure for a micrometer.

                            By the way and don't take offense to this just trying to keep you humble.
                            Just because you been reloading for 40 years don't mean you been doing it right.

                            Sorry buddy but every time I hear crap like that all I hear is " I know it all, I'm the smart one here, I don't make mistakes" And we all know thats BS

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                            • #15
                              baih777
                              CGN/CGSSA Contributor
                              CGN Contributor
                              • Jul 2011
                              • 5680

                              Hate to say this. But 1/4 turn over cam sounds too much for a small base die. The case can drop in too deep in a case guage. You may have created a bulge in the body of the brass. Which would cause the brass to get stuck.

                              And sizing mixed brass. You should have checked each brand of brass to much sure it would chamber.

                              I use the same brass for three different rifles. Two semi and one bolt gun. It's two 2 gallon buckets of brass. I setup the die and run 10 cases. Run them thru the guage and then make sure they chamber in each rifle.
                              Then I run all the brass at o e time. Last me the year.
                              Been gone too long. It's been 15 to 20 years since i had to shelf my guns. Those early years sucked.
                              I really miss the good old Pomona Gun Shows.
                              I'm Back.

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